• Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      No no! Let’s shove a preselected candidate down everyone’s throat and hope they hold their noses. That’ll be good enough! Best out of 3!

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    She’s an idiot to think her loss to a convict and rapist was anyone’s fault but her own. She’ll have even less of a chance against any reasonable candidate.

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      “I bet you won’t vote for a woman!”

      … Ok… Do you have any policy positions we should know about?

      “You wouldn’t vote for THAT guy over a woman would you?!”

      Please … We literally just want healthc-

      “LOOK, REPUBLICANS THAT DON’T LIKE HIM!”

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        As bad as it is, that really should have been enough. But too many idiot Americans failed to effectively vote against Trump; so they are responsible for him. You can cry that she didn’t motivate people, or her platform wasn’t perfect or even that her laugh was annoying. But whatever. You didn’t stop Trump, that’s on you.

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          On a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being “not perfect” and 5 being “What the fuck are they thinking. They don’t even pretend to represent us, this is just vile.”, where do you rank helping a foreign apartheid state commit genocide?

          The criticism isn’t about her motivating people. She deserves to be villafied. Her “platform” was disgusting. Stop scapegoating just because the newsletter tells you to.

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            Not sure what newsletters you get, but please stop trying to project your narrow-mindedness on me.
            I would love it if the Dems were to run someone who was actually progressive and took a strong stance against violence. But the billionaire class owns the politicians and the media, so it’s literally impossible to go there too fast without a revolution. Too many Americans would be taken in by any media play to villainize a ‘communist’ candidate. Heck, the reason you hate Harris is partly from the efforts of the right wing media to sow division in the democrats so as to get their tax/regulation reducing guy in power. So we end up with a dem candidate who will still keep the billionaires happy. But it’s a simple fact of which viable candidate was better/worse. If you can’t see that Harris would have been better than trump by a lot, then you’re being willfully ignorant. And there’s a whole timeline issue with calling Harris a genocide supporter. At the time of the last election, Isreal was still arguably fighting Hamas who was still firing rockets daily at Israeli civilians after starting the latest escalation in the October attacks. Of course Isreal was committing human rights violations back then, as they have been for decades, but it wasn’t genocide by any reasonable definition at that point. Who knows how Harris would have reacted to the increased brutality and clearly unnecessary violence by Isreal? Probably Isreal wouldn’t have gone so far because of some pushback from a Harris administration. But there’s no way it would be as bad as under Trump, with Isreal basically directing the U.S. military and trump encouraging the complete destruction of Gaza and now Lebanon. So the failure to vote for Harris in the simple choice of her or Trump, is a direct cause of the worst violence against the Palestinians in a long time. Not to mention just about every other issue that failing to reject trump has damaged, from abortion rights, gay/trans rights, brutality against non-citizens, brutality against peaceful protestors, removal of environment protections, removal of healthcare funding, funding for science, funding for education/libraries, relations with international allies, dramatic cost of living increases, etc. All that for some moronic inability to choose the not-as-bad candidate. We need to do better. And if we actually get an election, we need to stop splitting hairs and dividing the left and get back some power so we can then push to clean things up. It’s either that or full blown revolution, but we know Americans don’t have the ability to do that for various excuses.

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      While she was far from being an ideal candidate, and the Dems most definitely fumbled the entire election, let’s not forget the massive Russian bot campaign amplified by the clueless tankies, spreading that bullshit “Kamala is for genocide” crap… which was loud enough to turn a large chunk of average voters away from even voting. If not for that incredibly successful propaganda campaign, Kamala would’ve won, just by a smidge, but she would’ve come out on top.

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        She refused to even call Israel an apartheid state, let alone use the G word. She specifically said she wouldn’t do anything different than Biden did. That was her position. Can’t blame bot farms for her actual position.

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          Not wanting to say something is hardly the same as supporting it, though, isn’t it?

          But that’s besides the point. The very same people who took her silence as support of genocide, implied that somehow Trump would be better.

          But hey, it all worked out, right? Y’all assholes have a clean conscience not voting for someone who didn’t say the magic words, because it’s so much fucking better right now! Oh wait, it fucking isn’t because Trump isn’t just dependant on the money Israel funnels into the defense companies of the US, he’s literally in their fucking pocket, doing whatever the fuck Bibi wants to get out of jail free.

          Perfection is the enemy of good, as this example has shown. Kamala wasn’t a perfect candidate, and yes, the Dems should’ve picked someone better, BUT WAS IT REALLY FUCKING WORTH IT to allow Trump to won just to rub the DNC’s nose into the mess they made, and essentially starting WW3 within a year of his election? Does it soothe your soul that you didn’t vote for someone you were TOLD by the enemies of your state is a genocide supporter, and by that, allowing someone who directly supports genocide AND raped women - including underage ones - to win? Did you win this fucking purity test? Enjoy it then. Enjoy being king on the hill of rubble. And once the dust settles you can get a fancy pin, showing everyone how you’re directly responsible for the shit the whole world is in.

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          Yes, users like Ensign_Crab spent all day everyday screaming the “Harris is genocidal” bs every day 2 years ago. And they’re still out there all day, every day being a shill for the Putin aligned green party and is remarkably silent on the atrocities of Republicans.

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            EnsignCrab is still fighting the good fight because people like you are still simping for zionist genociders. You’ve learned nothing by that last betrayal of the voters and epic failure to win what should have been an easy election. You’ll 100% try to lose us the next election too.

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              And trump being in office stopped the genocide right? That was your end goal, right? To stop the genocide.

              Or did the genocide in Gaza worsen and now we’re threatening genocide on Iran? Do you think Harris would be vowing to destroy an entire civilization?

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                My goal was to end the inevitability of this and future genocides yeah. Lets get to universal human rights and destroy those who would oppose it.

                Big difference from what you are saying. And you are whining to keep the status quo going.

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    Go home and stay there, you are not wanted, your fight is done.

    You lost and you can never be what this world and country needs right now.

    Fuck Newsome too.

    I don’t want centrist Republican playmates, I want progressive left scorched earth justice.