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Cake day: August 5th, 2023

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  • Of course they have to keep some basic account data. And I think the last IP you logged in from. Also email data outside the BODY can’t be encrypted. That’s just how email works. So law enforcement can get all of that if they convince a Swiss court to order Proton.

    But no they don’t keep or turn over anything that isn’t technically required for the service to work. I don’t know what you’d expect.



  • You’re not saying “I don’t know”. If you assume they’re lying, you’re also making a claim. One you can’t back up in this case.

    And another place your confused, Proton isn’t a typical corporate structure. It’s owned by a non-profit, almost charity, effectively. One who’s board of trustees is entirely scientists and engineers. Assuming they’ll operate the same way a publicly traded corporation would is a big category error.




  • Not the real world. Just your imagination.

    Corporations lie for profit. Where’s the profit for Proton in keeping peoples AI queries, when they’ve been proven to not keep any other data? Literally they have nothing to gain, and everything to loose.

    Skepticism and pessimism aren’t the same thing. And baseless pessimism is just jaded. Jaded is the dark equivalent of naivety. They’re both equally simplistic ignorance.






  • That’s asking which one someone likes more, not which they think is AI. It’s a subtle but important distinction. For me it was a tossup. I picked the AI 3 to 2.

    In reality all the passages felt like over-written attempts to say something simple, as poetical as possible. I’ve never really liked that style of writing. I try to be much more direct.

    But generally, yah. That’s what I mean. You need that kind of test to know if you can tell something is AI or not.