“look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!”
there’s a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo “democrats” right now, because obviously he’s the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.
when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.
remember hasan’s dog? don’t think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don’t think about their support for funding israel’s genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn’t talking about israel or billionaires!
etc.
i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.
if there’s was ever a time to be picky about hasan’s choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.
I don’t love or hate him, but I keep up with what he has to say because he is undeniably the largest online voice representing the younger left-leaning voter base.
I can’t agree with many of his more agitating statements, but I’d rather have him reaching young people who feel disenfranchised by politics than the next manosphere crypto gambling tycoon. He’s more of a step in the right direction than liberal influencers.
Stuff like this is why leftists have a (mainstream) reputation of infighting and semantic policing instead of actual praxis.
Also, sometimes a shock collar is actually necessary. Not all animals respond to positive reinforcement.
While I’ve never used the shock feature on one (we just have it for the vibration setting for our deaf dog to get her attention), the people I know who have tried literally everything else first, and it only took one or two low level zaps to correct the behavior.
https://youtu.be/GIIQQqnPVuw?t=3m49s
He said democrats have to earn your vote, so the harm reduction argument isn’t valid. The democrats didn’t earn my vote so I didn’t vote. Now Trump killed 2 people, started a war, cut all solar programs, ruined our trade negotiations, destroyed the fda, destroyed usaid, destroyed the department of education, pulled out of the climate accord, destroyed research for being “woke,” but I mean hey the democrats didn’t earn my vote so I was fully justified not voting I think.
Did you go out and vote for any other candidates (local, senators, congressmen, school board?) or did you just skip voting all together?
Because if you did skip voting all together then yes it is 100% your own fault. Because I’m sure as shit he didn’t say “don’t vote”, he just said Democrats need to earn your vote. You’re the fuck weed who decided not to.
I’m a fucking Bernie bro and I was not on board with Hillary I was not on board with Kamala, but I sure as fuck went out and voted for both of them because I knew what the hell was coming.
This damage was self-inflicted. And every person who puts up their hand says, “not me I didn’t do this, I stayed home and didn’t vote cause both candidates sucked” is part of the problem and not any part of the solution. You don’t like the candidates? Then show up to the primaries and caucuses, get signs and put them in your lawn and support the candidates you want. Don’t just sit at home and post on Facebook how “everything sucks and it’s not my fault”.
I am saying I sucked it up and voted for kamala despite hassan explicity saying it was okay to not vote for the lesser of 2 evils “especially this time.” If there was ever a time in history to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, this was it. Hassan either pretends to or actually doesn’t realize how much America got shafted by trump, and how much WORSE trump would be for hamas.
I agree with everything you’re saying buuuuuuuuuuut also
the dude lives in a mansion in LA (which his excuse for was that he has a large family, someone better tell all the large families in my single-family suburban neighborhood that they should upsize ASAP) and plays down the importance of mutual aid. He’s a grifter and the left should be demanding better.
MeansTV is great and less braindead-Twitch-stream-formatted
Yeah this is ridiculous criticism. If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous. Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly? That he takes care of his family? Seems like ad hominem attacks to avoid having to engage with what he’s saying.
Yeah if you want to be pedantic he may not strictly fit the dictionary definition:
Someone who grifts is a thief, but of a particular sort: they illegally obtain money or property by means of cleverness or deceit, and do not usually resort to physical force or violence. A grifter might be a pickpocket, a crooked gambler, a scammer, or a con artist.
But generally language used in regular conversation, like this, is colloquial, not formal. And he firmly fits the colloquial use of the term, as described by urbandictionary:
A money-making operation that is either dishonest and takes advantage of people, or is simply a cause of annoyance or scorn to those who pay. Typically, a grift is a source of easy money to whoever runs it.
He is dishonest by pretending to align with socialist ideals while hoarding money, to the extent of buying oversized property in what is probably the 3rd or 4th most infamously-expensive place in the country. He could’ve donated that money to help the people he claims he wants to see helped.
He takes advantage of people by selling them the false image of him as a progressive / socialist, when in fact he only is to the extent that it benefits him.
It is a source of easy money to him.
He’s what you call a “champagne socialist”. I have no respect for such people and don’t think anyone else should either.
Besides that, there’s no healthy reason for you to be this invested in defending a streamer. Politics should not be a cult of personality if you actually want to achieve anything.
Besides that, there’s no healthy reason for you to be this invested in defending a streamer. Politics should not be a cult of personality if you actually want to achieve anything.
Says someone writing pages about it along with many lies.
He is dishonest by pretending to align with socialist ideals while hoarding money, to the extent of buying oversized property in what is probably the 3rd or 4th most infamously-expensive place in the country.
Dishonesty requires being dishonest about something. What is he being dishonest about?
He could’ve donated that money to help the people he claims he wants to see helped.
Cool so suppose he did that and was sufficiently poor for your liking would you have something to actually say about his views?
You seem way more invested in hating than engaging with his ideas.
Taking care of my family by having a multi million dollar mansion fancy clothes a sports car and a Rolex, amen brother. I don’t expect someone to live like a pauper but wtf give 2 million to red cross and you’ve literally saved like 1000 peoples lives.
“look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!”
there’s a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo “democrats” right now, because obviously he’s the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.
when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.
remember hasan’s dog? don’t think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don’t think about their support for funding israel’s genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn’t talking about israel or billionaires!
etc.
i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.
if there’s was ever a time to be picky about hasan’s choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.
I don’t love or hate him, but I keep up with what he has to say because he is undeniably the largest online voice representing the younger left-leaning voter base.
I can’t agree with many of his more agitating statements, but I’d rather have him reaching young people who feel disenfranchised by politics than the next manosphere crypto gambling tycoon. He’s more of a step in the right direction than liberal influencers.
Stuff like this is why leftists have a (mainstream) reputation of infighting and semantic policing instead of actual praxis.
Same - I feel like I’m going insane reading all this obvious bullshit. It’s good to know there’s other sane people in this shitpost thread.
Well, I kind of mean it as a joke, since they are not even opposition. You have to oppose to be opposition.
Also, sometimes a shock collar is actually necessary. Not all animals respond to positive reinforcement.
While I’ve never used the shock feature on one (we just have it for the vibration setting for our deaf dog to get her attention), the people I know who have tried literally everything else first, and it only took one or two low level zaps to correct the behavior.
If there’s nothing wrong with it then he should stand on business and admit it rather than lie about it.
https://youtu.be/GIIQQqnPVuw?t=3m49s He said democrats have to earn your vote, so the harm reduction argument isn’t valid. The democrats didn’t earn my vote so I didn’t vote. Now Trump killed 2 people, started a war, cut all solar programs, ruined our trade negotiations, destroyed the fda, destroyed usaid, destroyed the department of education, pulled out of the climate accord, destroyed research for being “woke,” but I mean hey the democrats didn’t earn my vote so I was fully justified not voting I think.
Did you go out and vote for any other candidates (local, senators, congressmen, school board?) or did you just skip voting all together?
Because if you did skip voting all together then yes it is 100% your own fault. Because I’m sure as shit he didn’t say “don’t vote”, he just said Democrats need to earn your vote. You’re the fuck weed who decided not to.
I’m a fucking Bernie bro and I was not on board with Hillary I was not on board with Kamala, but I sure as fuck went out and voted for both of them because I knew what the hell was coming.
This damage was self-inflicted. And every person who puts up their hand says, “not me I didn’t do this, I stayed home and didn’t vote cause both candidates sucked” is part of the problem and not any part of the solution. You don’t like the candidates? Then show up to the primaries and caucuses, get signs and put them in your lawn and support the candidates you want. Don’t just sit at home and post on Facebook how “everything sucks and it’s not my fault”.
I am saying I sucked it up and voted for kamala despite hassan explicity saying it was okay to not vote for the lesser of 2 evils “especially this time.” If there was ever a time in history to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, this was it. Hassan either pretends to or actually doesn’t realize how much America got shafted by trump, and how much WORSE trump would be for hamas.
This was literally your previous statement. So you can see how what you are saying is confusing.
I agree with everything you’re saying buuuuuuuuuuut also
the dude lives in a mansion in LA (which his excuse for was that he has a large family, someone better tell all the large families in my single-family suburban neighborhood that they should upsize ASAP) and plays down the importance of mutual aid. He’s a grifter and the left should be demanding better.
MeansTV is great and less braindead-Twitch-stream-formatted
Yeah this is ridiculous criticism. If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous. Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly? That he takes care of his family? Seems like ad hominem attacks to avoid having to engage with what he’s saying.
Not by me.
That he’s rich. And a grifter, which I already said.
Cool unsubstantiated opinion.
He’s a “”“socialist”“” living in a mansion in LA.
We may have different definitions of “substantiated”.
Cool now look up the definition of a “grift” and explain how it applies.
Yeah if you want to be pedantic he may not strictly fit the dictionary definition:
But generally language used in regular conversation, like this, is colloquial, not formal. And he firmly fits the colloquial use of the term, as described by urbandictionary:
He is dishonest by pretending to align with socialist ideals while hoarding money, to the extent of buying oversized property in what is probably the 3rd or 4th most infamously-expensive place in the country. He could’ve donated that money to help the people he claims he wants to see helped.
He takes advantage of people by selling them the false image of him as a progressive / socialist, when in fact he only is to the extent that it benefits him.
It is a source of easy money to him.
He’s what you call a “champagne socialist”. I have no respect for such people and don’t think anyone else should either.
Besides that, there’s no healthy reason for you to be this invested in defending a streamer. Politics should not be a cult of personality if you actually want to achieve anything.
Says someone writing pages about it along with many lies.
Dishonesty requires being dishonest about something. What is he being dishonest about?
Cool so suppose he did that and was sufficiently poor for your liking would you have something to actually say about his views?
You seem way more invested in hating than engaging with his ideas.
Taking care of my family by having a multi million dollar mansion fancy clothes a sports car and a Rolex, amen brother. I don’t expect someone to live like a pauper but wtf give 2 million to red cross and you’ve literally saved like 1000 peoples lives.