• 7101334@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I agree with everything you’re saying buuuuuuuuuuut also

    the dude lives in a mansion in LA (which his excuse for was that he has a large family, someone better tell all the large families in my single-family suburban neighborhood that they should upsize ASAP) and plays down the importance of mutual aid. He’s a grifter and the left should be demanding better.

    MeansTV is great and less braindead-Twitch-stream-formatted

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      3 days ago

      Yeah this is ridiculous criticism. If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous. Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly? That he takes care of his family? Seems like ad hominem attacks to avoid having to engage with what he’s saying.

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        3 days ago

        If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous.

        Not by me.

        Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly?

        That he’s rich. And a grifter, which I already said.

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            2 days ago

            He’s a “”“socialist”“” living in a mansion in LA.

            We may have different definitions of “substantiated”.

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                Yeah if you want to be pedantic he may not strictly fit the dictionary definition:

                Someone who grifts is a thief, but of a particular sort: they illegally obtain money or property by means of cleverness or deceit, and do not usually resort to physical force or violence. A grifter might be a pickpocket, a crooked gambler, a scammer, or a con artist.

                But generally language used in regular conversation, like this, is colloquial, not formal. And he firmly fits the colloquial use of the term, as described by urbandictionary:

                A money-making operation that is either dishonest and takes advantage of people, or is simply a cause of annoyance or scorn to those who pay. Typically, a grift is a source of easy money to whoever runs it.

                He is dishonest by pretending to align with socialist ideals while hoarding money, to the extent of buying oversized property in what is probably the 3rd or 4th most infamously-expensive place in the country. He could’ve donated that money to help the people he claims he wants to see helped.

                He takes advantage of people by selling them the false image of him as a progressive / socialist, when in fact he only is to the extent that it benefits him.

                It is a source of easy money to him.

                He’s what you call a “champagne socialist”. I have no respect for such people and don’t think anyone else should either.

                Besides that, there’s no healthy reason for you to be this invested in defending a streamer. Politics should not be a cult of personality if you actually want to achieve anything.

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                  12 hours ago

                  Besides that, there’s no healthy reason for you to be this invested in defending a streamer. Politics should not be a cult of personality if you actually want to achieve anything.

                  Says someone writing pages about it along with many lies.

                  He is dishonest by pretending to align with socialist ideals while hoarding money, to the extent of buying oversized property in what is probably the 3rd or 4th most infamously-expensive place in the country.

                  Dishonesty requires being dishonest about something. What is he being dishonest about?

                  He could’ve donated that money to help the people he claims he wants to see helped.

                  Cool so suppose he did that and was sufficiently poor for your liking would you have something to actually say about his views?

                  You seem way more invested in hating than engaging with his ideas.

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        3 days ago

        Taking care of my family by having a multi million dollar mansion fancy clothes a sports car and a Rolex, amen brother. I don’t expect someone to live like a pauper but wtf give 2 million to red cross and you’ve literally saved like 1000 peoples lives.