• Lioffproxy@lemmy.world
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    If my body wasn’t so busted I would prefer general labor. Over almost any desk job. I hate it. I don’t have a chat section. At least with general labor i felt like i actually did something of worth at the end of the day.

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      I honestly miss being a dish washer. Work at your own pace (within reason), get to take breaks whenever so long as shit isn’t piled up, and no dealing with customers.

      Unfortunately I’m just too tall to do it without eating NSAIDS like Skittles. Most of the sinks were barely dick height for me.

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        Man, I say this all the time. If dishwashing paid a living wage I’d go back to it in a heartbeat. I am short, though.

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    i challenge you to suffer his stupid fucking chat for a day… a lot of people would prefer back breaking labor.

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    I think I actually believe him when he says its soul-sucking. He’s obviously missing a lot of perspective on what he calls ‘real jobs’, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an emotional toll from what amounts to being a clown whose paycheck is derived from the whims of literally faceless masses

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    “look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!”

    there’s a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo “democrats” right now, because obviously he’s the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.

    when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.

    remember hasan’s dog? don’t think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don’t think about their support for funding israel’s genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn’t talking about israel or billionaires!

    etc.

    i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.

    if there’s was ever a time to be picky about hasan’s choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.

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      I don’t love or hate him, but I keep up with what he has to say because he is undeniably the largest online voice representing the younger left-leaning voter base.

      I can’t agree with many of his more agitating statements, but I’d rather have him reaching young people who feel disenfranchised by politics than the next manosphere crypto gambling tycoon. He’s more of a step in the right direction than liberal influencers.

      Stuff like this is why leftists have a (mainstream) reputation of infighting and semantic policing instead of actual praxis.

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      when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.

      Well, I kind of mean it as a joke, since they are not even opposition. You have to oppose to be opposition.

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      If there’s nothing wrong with it then he should stand on business and admit it rather than lie about it.

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      Also, sometimes a shock collar is actually necessary. Not all animals respond to positive reinforcement.

      While I’ve never used the shock feature on one (we just have it for the vibration setting for our deaf dog to get her attention), the people I know who have tried literally everything else first, and it only took one or two low level zaps to correct the behavior.

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      Same - I feel like I’m going insane reading all this obvious bullshit. It’s good to know there’s other sane people in this shitpost thread.

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      https://youtu.be/GIIQQqnPVuw?t=3m49s He said democrats have to earn your vote, so the harm reduction argument isn’t valid. The democrats didn’t earn my vote so I didn’t vote. Now Trump killed 2 people, started a war, cut all solar programs, ruined our trade negotiations, destroyed the fda, destroyed usaid, destroyed the department of education, pulled out of the climate accord, destroyed research for being “woke,” but I mean hey the democrats didn’t earn my vote so I was fully justified not voting I think.

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        Did you go out and vote for any other candidates (local, senators, congressmen, school board?) or did you just skip voting all together?

        Because if you did skip voting all together then yes it is 100% your own fault. Because I’m sure as shit he didn’t say “don’t vote”, he just said Democrats need to earn your vote. You’re the fuck weed who decided not to.

        I’m a fucking Bernie bro and I was not on board with Hillary I was not on board with Kamala, but I sure as fuck went out and voted for both of them because I knew what the hell was coming.

        This damage was self-inflicted. And every person who puts up their hand says, “not me I didn’t do this, I stayed home and didn’t vote cause both candidates sucked” is part of the problem and not any part of the solution. You don’t like the candidates? Then show up to the primaries and caucuses, get signs and put them in your lawn and support the candidates you want. Don’t just sit at home and post on Facebook how “everything sucks and it’s not my fault”.

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      I agree with everything you’re saying buuuuuuuuuuut also

      the dude lives in a mansion in LA (which his excuse for was that he has a large family, someone better tell all the large families in my single-family suburban neighborhood that they should upsize ASAP) and plays down the importance of mutual aid. He’s a grifter and the left should be demanding better.

      MeansTV is great and less braindead-Twitch-stream-formatted

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        Yeah this is ridiculous criticism. If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous. Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly? That he takes care of his family? Seems like ad hominem attacks to avoid having to engage with what he’s saying.

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          If he was poor and arguing for socialism he would be called jealous.

          Not by me.

          Now he’s rich and arguing for socialism and your criticism is…what exactly?

          That he’s rich. And a grifter, which I already said.

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          Taking care of my family by having a multi million dollar mansion fancy clothes a sports car and a Rolex, amen brother. I don’t expect someone to live like a pauper but wtf give 2 million to red cross and you’ve literally saved like 1000 peoples lives.

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    I feel he’s comparing streaming to white collar jobs, not blue collar jobs. I often refer to my white collar job as my first “real job” because it was the first job I got involving my degree. Prior to that my blue collar jobs where I worked as a “janitor” or in a deli were just part time work to get some spending money.

    Ironically, or perhaps not depending on your perspective, having every statement you make over analyzed because your profession is just constantly making statements live can certainly be soul sucking. I think this post is evidence of that. You have to constantly make sure you don’t say things that can get clipped in a way that will make you look bad.

    Judging by his other statements, I find it hard to believe he’s saying that hard manual labor is easy work that isn’t soul sucking.

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    What does the need to create divisive discourse around a popular leftist streamer serve to obscure about how you actually feel about the world?

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    I respect and appreciate what Hasan does and the impact he has even if I myself am not a fan.

    But boy, I do wish he managed to be less annoying while doing it, or that we had a better face for the movement in broad media than him.

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    I do think the streamer may have a point, but only in a bullshit jobs way. A job that actually improves the world has a sense of satisfaction that a job that’s either harmful or pointless lacks, and the latter does some damage to the psyche

    That said, he could you know, change careers

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          I find it hard to think of any job that would feel meaningful, under capitalism–which is the only system I have experience with. Certainly no job I’ve ever had has felt so. Sure, I could lie to myself that looking at the work from a narrow view, from a certain angle, and in the right light, potential meaning beyond just making the rich richer, and eking out an existence for myself could be occasionally glimpsed, but that was always an obvious lie.

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            You can certainly frame your meaningless job in a meaningful way.

            I am specialized in reducing waste and carbon emissions.

            How do I do it? I reduce excess inventories and implement shipping routes that make sense (using less expensive and less wasteful means of transportation wherever possible).

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            Have you considered plumbing? Civil engineering? Becoming a physician or nurse? Installing solar panels? Even a fair amount of manufacturing does something that the world is better off for having it, and within that, supportive work is still meaningful because it enables that good to happen.

            Yes, the distribution of resources and organization of labor are alienating in our society, but there’s work that improves the world and there’s satisfaction in doing it.

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    Yeah seems kind of whiny since he’s super successful and was probably already well-off, but on the other hand…

    I’m kind of tired of hearing that my nieces and nephews have no career goals other than to be a “content creator”.

    Maybe if more people were honest about what it takes and how the social media companies have started to squeeze creators then kids would aspire to get real jobs.

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    Nah he’s right. I’m in a friend circle that includes a lot of content creators and the burnout is so palpable, they can’t even take real holidays because if they do the algorithm fucks them over. Then the guy in the group who’s effectively a Janitor is the happiest and well adjusted and he loves his job.

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      1. The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.

      2. He’s also talking specifically about streaming which is the absolute lowest common denominator of online content. Like people just flip on OBS and record themselves playing games or eating or reacting to other content, literally just things they would be doing anyways even if they weren’t recording. No one is owed the ability to make money streaming and it’s hard to find a “real job” that provides less value to society than streaming.

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      I can absolutely see this. Viewers are expecting something new every time they check your page. If you aren’t active for a week they may stop checking.

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      LOL, they can’t take holidays? I can’t either, show me who can afford holidays… I haven’t been on holiday in a decade. At least they can pay their bills ffs, unlike me.

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        I get PTO and my job is maybe two steps above flipping burgers. I ain’t going overseas but I can deffo take a vacation. If you’re in a red state or otherwise victim to similar ratfuckery, my condolensces friend.

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        ???

        All my other friends? I’m on a very average wage and can take holidays, I have a friend’s that on like 1k/year over minimum who’s going to Japan later this year.

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          Scream out of touch louder. In the US (where Hasan is so its the pertinent example) federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, thats 16,080 a year, add 1000 and you’re saying your friend can afford to pay all their bills and a trip to Japan? The state with the highest minimum wage is Washington at 17.13 hourly total annual being 35,630, add 1,000 36,630. You’re saying thats not only a livable wage in that state but one high enough to afford a trip to Japan? Your friend is putting it on a credit card or they don’t have any of the bills associated with being an adult.

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            Let me get this straight, you’re saying that because some people hate their jobs, nobody is allowed to say a different job sucks? Or is it that nobody is allowed to enjoy their job?

            And you’re saying that because some people are struggling financially nobody else is allowed to be doing okay financially and enjoying the fruits of their labor?

            Get some perspective bro. Read the room!

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                Dude you badly need to spend some time offline and touch some grass and talk to some new people. Go have some fun in the real world!

                That line of thinking only comes from being in an echo chamber for too long

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                  I love that no matter what I say in shitpost there is a shockingly high percentage of people who take it as genuine. This is the best place I’ve ever found to bait/troll.

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                  I love that no matter what I say in shitpost there is a shockingly high percentage of people who take it as genuine. This is the best place I’ve ever found to bait/troll.

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            Americans still don’t understand there are other countries that exist.

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              Boooooo you stink. We are talking about hasan and you are trying to apply whatever your country (which is undeniably a significantly smaller number of people) to all countries by making the statement you’ve made based on your sub 1% incredibly high level of privilege. Your niche example can’t apply to the other 7.5 billion at least humans.

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                which is undeniably a significantly smaller number of people

                What if I’m actually from China?

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                  Well china doesn’t have a national minimum wage so I have no idea what you’d be referencing when stating 1000 above minimum. Highest city minimum wage set is Beijing, its 4 USD an hour. Not sure how that would pay all your bills and afford a vacation to Japan. Japan by the way has a minimum wage of around 2 times that. So, the money would stretch significantly shorter outside of just accommodations. You’re also ignoring the rest of what I said so you continue to stink. Your stance was that anyone making “average” wage can afford international travel and vacations.