The fiery dispute centered on a proposal that would have allowed agents to enter homes without judicial warrants
An internal dispute over how to carry out Donald Trump’s deportation agenda grew so heated that officials had to “clear the room,” according to a new report.
The argument unfolded during a February 2025 meeting attended by Rodney Scott, the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, and Caleb Vitello, who was then the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Scott and his deputies were advocating for a “master plan” — approved by then-Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem — that called for establishing a National Incident Command Center, which would tap the resources of ICE, CBP and the Pentagon, NBC News reported.
The plan was part of an effort to dramatically ramp up deportations to 1 million per year, lining up with the president’s promise to carry out the largest illegal immigrant expulsion program in U.S. history.
Of course. By executing the master plan we can soon realize a final solution to the immigrant problem.
How much of a feckless doofus babybrain do you have to be to see this and not imagine that the monster they’re creating will be turned on minorities, dissidents, and ultimately anybody inconvenient to the regime? Even if you’re a twisted sack of shit who likes the sound of that, you’re about as sharp as a sock full of soup if you think this will work out for you.
They understand all that. What they don’t understand is that the in-group will keep shrinking until they’re no longer in it.
I’m running out of ways to describe such mental myopia.
Lying. They’re just lying to you. Lots of people believe them because they believe things based on how good they feel to think about.
I’m running out of ways to even mentally react to the escalating holocaust. I feel hopeless. The holocaust is happening and there’s nothing I can do to stop it. People I love might be victims of it. If it spreads to Canada, just as the nazis spread to neighbouring countries, I might be a victim of it. The nazis might destroy everything I care about and I just have to try and carry on in the meantime because I don’t want to stop living because of a threat that may not get to me. The threat may hang over my head for decades, I don’t want to stop living in the meantime. I must carry on and just hope Canada stays safe from the nazis. As Nick Fury said, until such time as the world ends we will act as though it intends to spin on
They also don’t seem to understand that these leaders will put them all in the poor house.
I am stealing that sock full of soup phrase. Thank you for your service.
I actually got that from Corner Gas, which someone recommended to me the other day when I was asking for show recommendations!
History ignored is history repeated
We all saw this shit coming and it still happened, I don’t know what to tell you. History enthusiasts love to say that, but historians are usually even gloomier.
gobblin himmler wants the numbers to go up
Anyone comes in my home without a warrant won’t be walking out. Or at least the first five or six won’t.
Take that for what you will.
Shotguns with 1oz slugs transfer enough force that even if they hit armor capable of stopping it, it can cave in a chest cavity and leave someone slowly suffocating.
Edit: oops, ment to post this in the othet thread about firearms I was talking in and not here. Oh well I’ll leave it since there’s no true delete in the fediverse.
Unfortunatly for people without the background of somebody like you, that will be loved by ICE. Saves them from a lot of paperwork, before shooting them.
They’ll all be branded heroes while his entire family and friend circle is harassed endlessly, sometimes for fun.
You have a point. I’m a natural born citizen, no criminal history, the “right” skin color, and a few other accolades that wouldn’t make me the ideal target. Which is exactly why if I ever AM a target I can say with 100% certainty the above action is the correct one. If I’m being stormed, the likelihood of anyone in my home at the time surviving to tell their side is negligible enough to be nil, so time to go out swinging.
and I thought Guy Fawkes was born in England…
lol ok tough guy
If you have a family and you were expecting ICE to come after you, you’d probably be most likely to see your family again if you fight it legally, instead of trying to shoot your way out. Now, if you have nothing left to lose, then that could be a different story.
You think the fascists literally kicking in your door to take you and/or your family away is anything other than “nothing left to lose” territory?
extrajudicially kicking in your door at that.
We are in emergency mode and fascists kicking in your door without a warrant and disappearing you should be met with due force. However, my personal calculus is that we’re not at end stage fascism where they’re just shooting people in the street, and if the options are:
- survive and work with my family/lawyers/whoever to try to get out and see my family again
or
- go out guns blazing, kill a few home invaders but 100% also get killed,
my choice is the former. There are others who would rather stand up right now and meet their end, but at least they pushed back right now. I’m not at that point yet.
Side note: isn’t this insane that we’re even having these kinds of conversations now? Shit’s real bad.
We are in emergency mode and fascists kicking in your door without a warrant and disappearing you should be met with due force.
Due force is exactly what you ridiculed the other guy for saying he’d use, and if you won’t meet a home invader with what you call due force then your “should” here loses a lot of weight. The rest of your comment is answering something I didn’t say; your limits are your own.
But yes, it’s bananapants fuckballs insane that this is relevant conversation in America right now.
should
I’m saying that in a theoretical sense, everyone would like to think they would use their firearms to defend their family against a bunch masked men working for a fascist regime. The reality is much more difficult when it comes to how much you have to lose. Everyone is different I guess.
How do you fight something legally with no due process?
Right now, in May 2026, there is due process for most people. That’s obviously still a huge erosion to the Constitution and cause for emergency, as they are just continuing to go down that route, BUT I believe there is still a semblance of due process. All the hopeless doomers don’t understand the day to day processes are still going, and the news is amplifying the cases where due process has not been followed. Again I’m not saying that’s “fine”, just that if I were personally disappeared right now, I’m not going out guns blazing in that moment because my chances of seeing my family again are higher if I go peacefully.
Now, if we have this same conversation again in May 2027, after they’ve cancelled midterms, Republicans illegally remained in power, and they go full end stage fascism, that would be a different set of circumstances and appropriate responses.
That would put us at risk because the former residents of our home had Hispanic names and we still get mis-addressed mail for them.
A warrant would hopefully reveal “Oh, hey, they haven’t lived here in years.”
ICE rolling in with no warrant will just get people killed.
We have the same issue. Shotgun is loaded.
A “master plan”. Wonder why they didn’t go for the term “final solution”, hm?
“We had to destroy our constitutional republic in order to save it.”
I’m waiting for Trump to publicly burn the constitution. I mean literally. On the Whitehouse lawn. While his supporters say it has to be done to protect the constitution
I hope absolutely no Americans entertain this Nazi bullshit
Yes definitely an illegal immigrant expulsion.
Heated! HEATED!
