• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Kavernacle and Bad Empanada seem to be fully on the internet clout train.

    Allergic to the idea that leftism, or even antizionism, can win.

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      ZombiFrancis seems to be fully on the internet clout train.

      Allergic to the idea that leftism, or even antizionism, can win

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      That’s cool that you use internet content creators as your lens to view the world, rather than evaluating their claims historically. You must have such interesting studies, so many insights to share.

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    Yes, let us all unite to [checks notes] ensure that Republicans retain control of the Senate and therefore continue to rubber-stamp everything Trump does and further insulate him from consequences.

    Break the Republican majority first. Feel free to turn on each other like starving dogs after.

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        You’re comparing a guy who isn’t even in the Senate yet to the single most annoying Democratic senator, when you should be comparing him against his actual opponent, Susan Collins, who thought Trump had learned his lesson.

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      the supreme court has also insulated trump from consequences when they gutted the voting rights act and the democrats have proved themselves to be as much a rubber stamp as the republicans since the last election; you seem to be pinning your hopes in the wrong place.

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        “Wanting to define the terms of the conflict” is not the same thing as “pinning hopes.”

        I have no illusions that getting a Democratic majority in Congress will solve all of our problems. I know for a fact that a Republican majority will continue to make things worse at an ever-increasing pace until the situation becomes completely untenable. At least with Democrats, there’s a conversation to be had.

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          At least with Democrats, there’s a conversation to be had.

          is there?

          the democrats refused to talk about gaza during the election and their post-mortem study won’t even mention it; yet multiple polls confirm that that was the biggest reason why they lost the last election.

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    Pretty fitting that the US democrats main focus candidate right now is a former Abu Ghraib torture camp prison guard, who repeatedly says he signed up for the US military because he wanted to kill people.

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      It really kind of is. The bar is so low.

      But without disputing who he is: his net worth is around the same (Stated as under $165k) as the median American ($125k). He’s categorically not a part of the wealth class, and he at least seems to know it.

      That kind of class consciousness on the American national stage from a white man veteran? I think that’s relatable to a giant swath of otherwise apolitical or even chuddy Americans.

      If he can stick to his principles on policy in Congress and even just be the new Bernie, he’s going to resonate strongly with the post-9/11 military community. If that faction can even so much as look at the left outside their crosshairs, it’ll be a significant shift.

      He’s worth the shot in Maine, I think.

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        That kind of class consciousness on the American national stage from a white man veteran? I think that’s relatable to a giant swath of otherwise apolitical or even chuddy Americans.

        very true imo, but his wealth classifies him petite bourgeoisie and this class has a well documented history of siding with fascism over socialism when it comes down where it matters.

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          I can see that interpretation, since he IS a small business owner of an oyster farm.

          Having been a shellfish farmer myself, but on the west coast, my perspective is that it’s closer to tenant farming than being petit bourgeoisie. The self employed and small growers all had to rent tideflats to work.

          But yes, ultimately it is the same function since some other owners as I remember absolutely were just seeking to separate themselves from labor.

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      I have this pet theory that some billionaires made a bet on how many “values” they could have a “leftist” dem voter betray in with one vote. Dude’s got everything from nazi tattoo to Iraqi war crimes to zionism and infidelity (free space for any US politican tbf).

      There was this comment chain under a comment moaning about “purity testing” on the left where I said

      The people on lemmy complaining about purity tests are typically the ones to rally to the defense of a US marine and Blackwater merc with 4 tours in Iraq, 1 in Afghanistan and a tattoo of the SS skull because he is running as a democrat.

      and the guy didn’t know about Platner and thought I was just making something up and dismissed me as “just another .ml tankie”. When I linked them they immediately went with

      Okay, so upon reading through the full story and also the comments. It really just seems like he has a skull and bones tattoo that vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division, that doesn’t appear to be very mainstream, even among neo Nazis. And since there’s not any other evidence pointing to him being a Nazi I think the most likely explanation is he got a tattoo he thought looked cool, like he said.

      shame the post got deleted so I can’t link the chain it was pretty funny

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        Okay, so upon reading through the full story and also the comments. It really just seems like he has a skull and bones tattoo that vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division, that doesn’t appear to be very mainstream, even among neo Nazis. And since there’s not any other evidence pointing to him being a Nazi I think the most likely explanation is he got a tattoo he thought looked cool, like he said.

        Like, OK, I’ll give him that then, but why…hasn’t he removed it after learning about it?

        Do their brains just stop working after they arrive at this logic?

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        It really just seems like he has a skull and bones tattoo that vaguely resembles one used by a nazi division

        hahaha the COPE

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      Besides being a mass murderer of brown people Platner was also cheating on his wife. Truly a reliable guy who will keep his word.

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        Libs will be like “wow you really want Susan Collins to win don’t you” (I have no idea who Susan Collins is)

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          I care about him being a fascist US military cuck, loves it, brags about killing brown people for fun and adventure, and having a Nazi tattoo for like 20 years. I think he’s a bad guy with a faux leftist coat of paint.

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            yup. sexting on top of all that is nothing. it’s even adult women not the pedo cabal and i’m supposed to care that the blackwater guy stepped out on his wife? the clinton blowjob scandal is old enough to rent a car

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            It mostly says something about the material conditions of a person that is within a society that forces monogamy which severely punishes those that aren’t.

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                I just don’t think it really adds to the argument. If someone walked like a Nazi, shot like a Nazi, wore Nazi tattoos, then claims to be a leftist while not working with any left orgs or using their current platform to create class consciousness, they’re already failing to take the most basic steps. Why add anything more? It’s adding a weak argument to a strong one, making it easier to dismiss.

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    these people are starting to call thselves “the left”. “the left” is anti zionist and will always be.

    no really, don’t allow this shit.

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      Left also should not accept current or previous military members unless they are openly anti US military and imperialism pretty much every single sentence they speak publicly.

      Not at all, whatsoever with absolutely no exceptions other than listed. Those guys and gals get up to some bad shit, and they’re usually one (or less) person removed from (fascist) government officials

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        for sure. the indoctrination goes hard in the military, police forces and similar institutions.

        people i know who went through these never go back to having sound critical thought and they stay a bit aggressive forever.

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      Partly due to the Overton window, partly due to their inability to confront their own complicity, I think. They don’t want to be responsible for anything - they just want to vote blue and pat themselves on the back.

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      I just got banned from lemmy.world/c/progressivepolitics for criticizing Platner.

      Anything to the left of a Nazi is “ultra-left” apparently.

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        Yep get downvoted anytime I question this guy. Same with the billionaire running for governor in California.

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        Sanders endorsed him too though if I’m not mistaken. So everyone just needs to take a deep breath and remember that Susan Collins needs to fucking goooooo

        Edit. Fucking ML, how to I keep ending up with these dipshits? Time to figure out how to block it all.

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          Sanders fucking voted to bomb yugoslavia, Sanders refused to call it genocide for two years and the one time he did he opened with “Hamas (a terrorist organization, very scary!) started it”. Getting endorsed by Bernie “bent the knee for hillary” Sanders is an indictment of Plaᛏner if anything.

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          Sanders endorsed Jon Fetterman in 2022 too.

          This entire debate is “Kamala Harris is not Donald Trump” 2026 edition. “The left” needs to find an alternative to promote instead of a literal Nazi mass murderer.

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    Schumer definitely didn’t give his support willingly. And nobody cares what he has to say anyway.

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      The comments here are ridiculous, he is only giving support because Platner is winning without him and it’s a bad look if democrats don’t support a dem candidate.

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      Schumer definitely didn’t give his support willingly.

      I’m sure Schumer got something in exchange which he does care about then.