Men who got the HPV vaccine had a 46% reduction in risk of developing HPV-related cancers, a new study says. Dr. Leana Wen advises boys and men to get the vaccine.
TLDR; whether you are male or female if you are under the age of 45, and insurance will pay for it, get the HPV vaccine. They won’t let you have it over 45 years old.
Firs they say we don’t need it,
When it initially came out supplies were low and the only known at-risk groups it was know to help directly were girls and young women, so they said, rightfully, men don’t need it at this time.
then they say we’re too old for it
Because at the time time it was thought that if you got one of the non-threatening strains of HPV that your body would already be primed to fight of a future infection of one of the few threatening strains. With nearly any vaccine there’s a negligible amount of health risks. If the research at the time said that there’d be no benefit to you, but you’d still be exposed to the negligible risk, then it made sense to say you were too old to benefit.
There’s also a money thing here. The HPV vaccine isn’t particularly cheap. So the guidance is trying to save you from throwing money away. If you need it, the cost is well worth it, if it wouldn’t benefit you, the money paid for it would be wasted.
then they say we’re too old for it, and finally they say it’s beneficial.
Years passed with outcomes showing benefits for other not in the primary group of recipients (girls and young women). So, yes, now they’re telling you they have evidence that its helpful to you too.
Yes, both are expensive out-of-pocket. That’s part of the decision about why to not recommend gardisil (HPV vaccine) for the wider groups without the clinical outcomes to show the value. However, I addressed this in a later post in this thread, in the USA the ACA makes sure nearly all health insurance pays for recommended vaccines at 100%. So if you have insurance its most likely you can get gardisil or shingrex (for shingles) with zero out-of-pocket costs. I was surprised to see the retail price of Shingrex at $500, but I didn’t pay a penny of that as it was fully covered.
I don’t see anything that indicates danger according to the american cancer society, according to them it is entirely cost benefit although they do admit it has not been thoroughly studied in populations 45+.
Having multiple sex partners, or recently divorced is an indication for getting it though - so if you’re a big 'ol slut (<3) you should consider it at any age, if you can get it paid for.
A pharmacist is perhaps in trouble for not following regulations? They set these rules because they’ve done studies about adverse effects, and those trials apparently only included folks up to age 45, so they don’t know for sure what would happen to older people. Its the same reason most people can’t get the Shingles vaccine until age 50 (even though LOTS of people under 50 get Shingles). The clinical data starts at 50 for that one.
You’re not going to die or anything, but the rules are in place they won’t give it to you so I recommend getting it while you can as it is clearly showing benefits over time. I got HPV shot before I aged out and it was completely paid for by insurance (because of the USA ACA).
i saw so many people on the shingles sub trying to get it, even though they arnt at risk. also the implications is unknown, and someone reported they actually had a really bad inflammatory reaction from taking shingles vaccine so early in life.
My friend had a really bad case of shingles at age 45 he was bedridden for 3 weeks in tremendous pain, he almost lost eyesight in one eye. Another friend got it at 41 and while she wasn’t as bad off as the first friend was tremendously painful and she was out of work for weeks. When I got my shingles shot I told the pharmacist these stories, and she told me she herself got shingles at 35.
I would have rolled the dice on a bad inflammatory reaction from shingles vaccine given the chance.
I knew someone who was old enough to get the shingles vaccine but couldn’t because one of the requirements for vaccination is “not having had shingles in the last X amount of time”. Poor dear just kept having shingles outbreaks. She really wanted the vaccine.
Yeah not really sure what the OP comment is implying. Like as if doctors are taking the piss with their recommendations rather than them being the best choice based on the science available at that time
First they say we don’t need it, then they say we’re too old for it, and finally they say it’s beneficial.
Is this a game to you?
TLDR; whether you are male or female if you are under the age of 45, and insurance will pay for it, get the HPV vaccine. They won’t let you have it over 45 years old.
When it initially came out supplies were low and the only known at-risk groups it was know to help directly were girls and young women, so they said, rightfully, men don’t need it at this time.
Because at the time time it was thought that if you got one of the non-threatening strains of HPV that your body would already be primed to fight of a future infection of one of the few threatening strains. With nearly any vaccine there’s a negligible amount of health risks. If the research at the time said that there’d be no benefit to you, but you’d still be exposed to the negligible risk, then it made sense to say you were too old to benefit.
There’s also a money thing here. The HPV vaccine isn’t particularly cheap. So the guidance is trying to save you from throwing money away. If you need it, the cost is well worth it, if it wouldn’t benefit you, the money paid for it would be wasted.
Years passed with outcomes showing benefits for other not in the primary group of recipients (girls and young women). So, yes, now they’re telling you they have evidence that its helpful to you too.
its like several hundred for out of pocket for shingrx for under 50year old. gardisil is not likely cheap other.
Yes, both are expensive out-of-pocket. That’s part of the decision about why to not recommend gardisil (HPV vaccine) for the wider groups without the clinical outcomes to show the value. However, I addressed this in a later post in this thread, in the USA the ACA makes sure nearly all health insurance pays for recommended vaccines at 100%. So if you have insurance its most likely you can get gardisil or shingrex (for shingles) with zero out-of-pocket costs. I was surprised to see the retail price of Shingrex at $500, but I didn’t pay a penny of that as it was fully covered.
what happens if someone over 45 gets the vaccine?
Wolverine bone claws, laser vision and invisible penis syndrome
I don’t see anything that indicates danger according to the american cancer society, according to them it is entirely cost benefit although they do admit it has not been thoroughly studied in populations 45+.
Having multiple sex partners, or recently divorced is an indication for getting it though - so if you’re a big 'ol slut (<3) you should consider it at any age, if you can get it paid for.
A pharmacist is perhaps in trouble for not following regulations? They set these rules because they’ve done studies about adverse effects, and those trials apparently only included folks up to age 45, so they don’t know for sure what would happen to older people. Its the same reason most people can’t get the Shingles vaccine until age 50 (even though LOTS of people under 50 get Shingles). The clinical data starts at 50 for that one.
You’re not going to die or anything, but the rules are in place they won’t give it to you so I recommend getting it while you can as it is clearly showing benefits over time. I got HPV shot before I aged out and it was completely paid for by insurance (because of the USA ACA).
i saw so many people on the shingles sub trying to get it, even though they arnt at risk. also the implications is unknown, and someone reported they actually had a really bad inflammatory reaction from taking shingles vaccine so early in life.
My friend had a really bad case of shingles at age 45 he was bedridden for 3 weeks in tremendous pain, he almost lost eyesight in one eye. Another friend got it at 41 and while she wasn’t as bad off as the first friend was tremendously painful and she was out of work for weeks. When I got my shingles shot I told the pharmacist these stories, and she told me she herself got shingles at 35.
I would have rolled the dice on a bad inflammatory reaction from shingles vaccine given the chance.
I knew someone who was old enough to get the shingles vaccine but couldn’t because one of the requirements for vaccination is “not having had shingles in the last X amount of time”. Poor dear just kept having shingles outbreaks. She really wanted the vaccine.
Medical recommendations changed based on recent studies. What a concept!
Yeah not really sure what the OP comment is implying. Like as if doctors are taking the piss with their recommendations rather than them being the best choice based on the science available at that time