• marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    Compared to the US you’re advanced, sure. So is Mexico, South Africa, China, and 40 other countries… The problem is the NK-propaganda level of silly laws and procedures that have come from your nightmare island.

    This is one of them, 5-years for roleplay. For adults pretending to be something in an adult setting meant for adults. Are you going to ban every show that has murder? Are you going to say anyone that pretends to be a pedophile of a TV show gets 20 years in therapy for daring to bring that immorality to the British public? Are you going to give ten years for interracial? How about go full US and ban sodomy? Will you be banning doggy style for promoting bestiality?

    And don’t get me wrong, it’s not just this particular bit of nonsense. Raves, for instance. Recently the UK sent multiple SWAT teams to a rave because, and I quote “The UK’s Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 (specifically Sections 63-65) empowers police to stop outdoor gatherings of 20 or more people (100 in some definitions) playing music “wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats”.”

    I’m sorry but that law is so ridiculously vague and hilariously worded that Monty Python could sue. Literally this is ‘man goes shopping for his ant’ era of the Flying Circus in how specifically ridiculous that is.

    And you can’t say this is olden time nonsense – these are modern laws written for modern Britain. This is post Thatcher. And it’s this level of silly. Every story that comes out of the UK falls into three categories:

    1. Monty Python’s Law and Order SVU.

    2. Benny Hill’s The Rise of the Fourth Reich (seriously why is the labor party more right wing that UKIP now?)

    3. Jimmy Carr’s Here’s another English word the English don’t use right.

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      The Criminal Justice bill is 30 years old and was Tory legislation. I remember marching against it at the time, and I’ve attended countless raves since.

      This wild idea perpetuated in the US that we live in some sort of Police State is absurd. Source: me, my friends and family and almost everyone I know who actually live here.

      Keir was one of the few who (finally) stood up to that blustering man-child that you guys have. Labour are far, far from perfect, but to say they’re more right wing than UKIP is a seriously odd take.

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        Borther 30 years 60 years, it does not matter; you are sending swat to raves literally this week. under labor, for a law written by monty python that literally criminalizes every single march or statistically every group of 20^2 people walking in any given space..

        This wild idea perpetuated in the US that we live in some sort of Police State is absurd.

        It’s not the US, it’s the entire rest of the world. All europeans make fun of your prison island. Heck the only reason most European countries interacted with you all pre-brexit was because you were on the right side of WWII… eventually.

        Are you quite a police state? You are the closest thing one could describe as a police state, from prison time for criticizing the government, saying the UK shouldn’t participate in a genocide, to not being able to buy a butter knife without ID.

        The only thing you are missing is harsher punishments for your ridiculous ‘crimes,’ but I think that might actually cause a revolution in your country.

        Keir was one of the few who (finally) stood up to that blustering man-child that you guys have.

        Keir is a blustering man child, and a genocidal monster.

        And no, plenty of leaders have stood up to Trump, the UK was slow on the uptake to that but the world has been resisting Trump.

        Labour are far, far from perfect, but to say they’re more right wing than UKIP is a seriously odd take.

        UKIP does not support Israel’s genocide, somehow. The Labour Party, after removing all the progressives and socialists because of ‘antiemitism’ does. Actively endorsing and participating in genocide makes you more right wing that just planning and endorsing one.

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          3 days ago

          Whatever man. I live and work here, and my lived experience couldn’t be further than your selective hyperbole.