Donald Trump has promised to pardon his White House staffers, reported the Wall Street Journal’s Josh Dawsey in an exclusive report on Friday.

Dawsey, the veteran DC reporter, cited “people who have heard his comments” in the bombshell report revealing that Trump is asking his staff to operate with a sense of impunity.

“I’ll pardon everyone who has come within 200 feet of the Oval,” Trump reportedly told staffers “in a recent meeting to laughs.”

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 days ago

    When you start pardoning everyone… When you start operating so much outside of the law that this becomes SOP…

    …You gotta stop and really question if what you’re doing is actually right or not.

    And this guy is the PRESIDENT? Damn man. For shame.

    I know the US has had an extremely troubled history and is constantly making costly ethical mistakes. But… This is just like… An exceptionally dark time for the USA. And that’s saying something.

    Like, for real. What’s the exit plan here? What’s the actual outcome of this gonna be? How bad is this gonna get? And how do we, as people, overcome this?

    All black pills and cynicism aside, this has got to stop, and the only way it’s going to, is with leadership with power. What type of leader is going to be the spearhead for the step forwards?

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      Biden already set precedent by pardoning his entire administration to prevent malicious prosecutions from this one. Motivation may have been different, but that doesn’t really change that he just promised to do the same thing Biden did.

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      I think most Americans are apathetic about issues that don’t effect our lifestyles. We don’t necessarily like the actions of our country as a whole, but we limit our outrage to the internet and the ballot box.

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    That’s quite literally not a way out for these traitors. That will just give the individual states easily winnable cases against anyone that accepts a pardon.

    If the non-fascists take back Congress, we can change the current laws & simply extradite the rest of them to the Hague. And we’ve now seen how fast the federal government can move when it wants to.

    At the very least, these traitors are going to be fighting civil lawsuits until they die.

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        yeah agreed. I keep circling around the fact that our government is completely captured across every branch and party, and the interests that have it captured care nothing about Americans, or are hostile and just using us. The 2 political parties dictate the outcome for primaries, so they will never let an honest actor win a national primary unless a secret-decent person manages to sneak through their net, which seems unlikely given the grooming process politicians need to go through before they get any real power. Mamdani won because mayoral races arent as hard to enter and get funded as federal races are. But he did it despite the dems massive efforts to backstab his campaign into oblivion. Can that scale nationally? Seems hard to beleive. Bernie’s candidacy and the outcome of his suing the DNC showed us that they can hand pick whoever they want at any time and the primary system is not legally binding, and need not be fair or impartial. Its not really an election.. Only the general election is.

        https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/

        So whats inevitable now : Social programs and free speech/protests will inevitably be removed. I cant see a midterm win by dems leading to a turnaround in our national descent into fascism. Its really just a matter of time until some sort of revolution happens, and the centrists are just playing for time in an utterly doomed system. We’re in a dead zombie democracy that was a watered down version of democracy even when it was alive.

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    Do we have to accept the pardons made by a criminal? I’m sure the complicit figures in government will abide by it but I don’t think they shoyld get off scot-free because of a pardon. They shouldn’t be valid.

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    Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, dismissed Trump’s comments in a statement, saying, “The Wall Street Journal should learn to take a joke, however, the President’s pardon power is absolute.”

    It’s just a joke, bro! Unless…

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      are war crimes enforced period? I mean there’s been what 2 small countries prosecuted for war crimes since WW2, and a couple of world leaders walking around with arrest warrants on their heads that don’t really seem to be affected by it anyway.