• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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        5 days ago

        Not in leadership, where it matters.

        Sure, there are lots of progressive voters, and even a few token reps. It doesn’t matter, window dressing for the defenstration.

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          5 days ago

          Fair enough, of course the US government has literally never listened to the people which is statistically provable. What is worse is most nations are about the same.

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          5 days ago

          Problem is Americans don’t turn over incumbents before the wealthy corrupt them or their peers assimilate them into the political class.

          The only path forward for US to remain a functional democracy is to primary sitting democrats at a rate faster than they can be corrupted.

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            5 days ago

            Really we need a system that doesn’t use popular vote to determine representation. Even with good safety rails it eventually turns into an oligarchy which has happened to every major democracy.

            I would even argue that democracy itself is just a window dressing around the world for the ruling class.

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              5 days ago

              We already know you’re an enlightened centrist dude. No need to elaborate.

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                  5 days ago

                  Mom raised me to read above the 5th grade level.

                  Independent for 30+ years just means you’re old enough to have lead poisoning in your brain.