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    3 days ago

    You don’t know what “neoliberal” means. Lumping most Democrats in with Trump is painfully ignorant and divorced from empirical reality.

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      You don’t know what “painfully ignorant and divorced from empirical reality” means.

      bOtH pArTiEs take their orders from the billionaire class, get real, stop being a sucker

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        Thanks for admitting you don’t know what “neoliberal” means, you ill-informed blowhard. It’s just a buzzword to people like you.

        bOtH pArTiEs take their orders from the billionaire class, get real, stop being a sucker

        Grow the fuck up. If you can’t see the difference between the administrations of Biden and Trump, you’re an absolute fucking dumbass.

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        3 days ago

        Look we have a both sider just in time for the next election. What a strange coincidence.

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          Oh yes, every two years, what an UNCANNY COINCIDENCE that an independent speaks six months before an election. You are truly the world’s greatest detective.

          meanwhile, in reality, independents are 40% of the electorate. Ds and Rs are down to 30% each.

          Perhaps you should listen to the independents, instead of insulting them? You need independents to win any election. You’re not doing yourself any favors.

          This is why bOtH pArTiEs are losing voters; when will you figure it out, detective?

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          Looks like we have a genocide stanning, Blue MAGA party loyalist, just in time for the next election, what a strange coincidence.

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            If your referring to me you are about as wrong as you can be. I have no qualms calling out the US as the fascist nation it has always been.

            I am also not afraid to call out Russia and China as fascist nations as well. I grow tired of campists from .ml as they are mostly just authoritarian apologists.

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              authoritarian apologists.

              Authoritarianism is a useless term created by Liberals to obfuscate the differences between Socialism and Fascism.

              Russia is a vaguely protofascist Oligarchy, that’s kind of true. They only deserve support in so far as their actions weaken imperial hegemony.

              China is not at all fascist and it’s laughable that you suggest it is. Unless your definition of Fascism is “when the government says there are things I’m not allowed to do”…

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                Yup, found another authoritarian apologist. No surprise.

                Tell me how China, that cranked out more billionaires than the US this and last year, is not practicing unfettered capitalism.

                Tell me how supplying arms to war torn countries is not fascist. They are now the fourth largest producer of arms

                Tell me how they are not an authoritarian oligarchy with a single ruling party where dissent is punished with prison.

                Actually, don’t bother. I hate hearing from human rights abusers. Disgusting.

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                  All I’m getting here is that you don’t understand the actual meaning of a lot of the words you’re using, and that you uncritically accept Imperialist framing of everything.

                  China isn’t practicing “unfettered capitalism”, because their economy is under the control of the people through the Communist Party. What they are practicing is a form of socialism, the middle state between capitalism and communism which includes parts of both.

                  China did produce more billionaires than the US last year. Developing economies tend to do that faster and more often than stale ones. China also sentenced more billionaires to death for exploitation last year than the US has ever, but that little data point doesn’t fit with your CIA approved narrative.

                  “Supplying arms to war torn countries” is that Fedspeak for “giving oppressed nations and resistance groups the ability to fight back against Imperialism”?

                  China is not an “authoritarian Oligarchy”, you’re thinking of the United States.

                  The U.S. is an Oligarchy? The Research, Explained | RepresentUs https://share.google/JIlxY85GIDUfoKG6o

                  China is a robust democracy where people have direct control, so parties in the Western sense are unnecessary and undesirable.

                  Studies show strong public support for China’s political system https://share.google/T9Bm5GvSUW0Xt0hdz

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                    I am getting the feeling that you are a China apologist. Good for you I guess.

                    You don’t get billionaires by practicing controlled capitalism. A billionaire is about as far from small market capitalism as you can get. We are talking massive concentration of wealth and power. Hence the unfettered capitalism. While the state does take a cut of profits from every corporation it does not micro management them.

                    Cool knowing you are hand waiving the execution of human beings. We already knew you were a human rights abuser, but thanks for the additional confirmation.

                    As we see the wealth gap grow with billionaire and upper class mobilization, it creates a very obvious two tired society. Tying to say they are practicing socialism in a literal sense is pretty ridiculous.

                    Their may be some socialist aspects specifically with universal medical coverage, but the devil is always in the details with substandard medical delivered to rural areas and far better care delivered to the urban caste.

                    China is one party oligarchy with a side of authoritarianism. They are open about their one party rule and taking a cut of all business profit so denying the oligarchy is fucking silly.

                    For the Authoritarian part well the executions and extreme surveillance society wrap that up in a neat little bow. If you don’t believe me just asks the Muslim population they are so desperately trying to erase or their actions in Tibet as well as musings of preventing Taiwan independence. All signs point to tight authoritarian control of all aspects of society including religious worship.

                    The fact that you deny China supplies arms is just stupid. I don’t even know where to begin with this level of denialism. China exports drones, missiles, and fighter jets to over 40 countries, with key customers including Pakistan, Myanmar, Nigeria, and Algeria. If you are playing stupid, It is working.

                    Yes, the United States is also a fascist nation like China. I have no problem calling a spade a spade. China is great because of the US not despite. They have been sleeping in each other’s bed for a long time. Both disgusting nations built on imperialism. I would argue the US is far worse though.

                    The fact that you say Chinese citizens support their government when opposition is not allowed is absolutely tone deaf and hilarious at the same time. I thought calling the US a democracy is a big stretch but you will stretch it straight to the moon declaring China a robust democracy. Thanks for the laugh I suppose.

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          They want Democrats to keep loosing until their dumbass fantasy comes true.

          Lazy “billionaire” criticism is so frustrating when we watch Republicans cut taxes for billionaires and take away healthcare coverage from 17 million Americans.