Nah, tankies aren’t any more or less left. They’re just more authoritarian focused.
You literally ban all tankies in comms where you can do it, you’re abusing authoritarianism.
Tankies aren’t more left than anarchists by pure ideology, I’d argue we’re matched there, we’re just more scientific and less corrupted by cold-war propaganda.
Tankies aren’t leftists in reality.
Maybe left of Nazis, but they aren’t leftists.
The political left and authoritarianism are inherently contradictory.
Its the political right that embraces authoritarianism. Hence why we call them “Red Fascists”
Ironic that you’d call “red fascists” to the people supporting the socialist movement that literally saved Europe from fascism.
Tankies support systems that have historically brought massive improvements to working and peasant classes in the oppressed world. Doubling and tripling life expectancy wherever communism arrives and succeeds, literacy from 20-30% to 100% in a few decades, women’s rights, worker rights, free massive healthcare, free education… You just argue against tankies because you’re a westerner whose leftism is conformed by CIA propaganda. You don’t support any historically successful socialist movement (Cuba, Soviets, China, Vietnam, Laos) precisely because they defeated capitalism and fascism.
Especially hurtful as a Spaniard, where we leftists lost our civil war because the biggest leftist movements were anarchists and they couldn’t win a war, and we were left with 40 years of fascist dictatorship. You’d just rather praise the anarchists that lost against fascism than the communists who defeated it elsewhere.
The political left and authoritarianism are not contradictory. Leftists are not always Libertarians, and many of them will and do trade freedom for safety regularly.
I would strongly contest the idea that tankies are durther left than anarchists. This only make since if you’re a shitlib.
Anarchists aren’t more left in principle, it’s just that their theoretical ideas don’t actually face the stark realities of confronting global capitalism and imperialism because no significant anarchist movement ever actually got to the part where you defeat capitalism, and therefore didn’t have to defend itself from imperialist siege
I don’t consider tankies lefter than me.
Oh, cool, tell me what historically successful, relevant and long-lasting leftist movements you support! Wait, you don’t support any actually existing leftism…?
Hey I found the Tankie who thinks they’re on the left!
You can answer the question too! Which actually existing current or historical leftist movements do you support? Or is your ideology purely theoretical and you don’t actually care about the results?
Seriously. Tankies are authoritarians who consider themselves leftists.
Tankies support systems that have brought about immense increases in life expectancy, worker’s rights, women’s rights, free healthcare, free education, and literally defeated fascism. It’s still baffling to me that in 2026, witnessing the descent to fascism of the west (Trump, Meloni LePen, AfD, Vox…) you’re still so threatened by Chinese socialists who literally don’t have a fascist party or by the Soviet socialists who literally saved Europe from Nazism.
Tell me which actually existing, relevant, long-lasting leftist projects you support and how they’re further to the left than Cuba.
They’re so left they’ve wrapped around and became fascists
Authoritarian / libertarian is on a completely different axis from left / right, no?
Only on the political compass, which uses a definition of left vs right that a lot of leftists disagree with. Really, the entire history of “left wing” politics has been about questioning and dismantling authority. The terms “left wing” and “right wing” come from the French revolution, when the people in favour of simply reforming the monarchy sat on the right side of the room, while the people who wanted to fully dismantling the monarchy sat on the left. A lot of more modern leftist thought is about questioning the power that capitalist businesses have.
Very well said, thank you.
Bruh tankies aren’t further left than me
Tankies are left?
Yes, we support the movements that have brought the most significant development of worker rights, welfare state and anti-imperialism.
No.
yes
If you believe in the horseshoe theory they aren’t. I believe in the horseshoe theory
E: uppon more research i don’t believe in the horseshoe theory per se. But in speaking to many tankies, they exhibit many traits that the far right has.
The biggest similarity is that we are both willing to use violence to oppress our enemies. The difference is that the enemy of communists are our oppressors and the enemy of fascist is whoever they decide to not like at the moment. The ultimate attack on capital (communism) is materially different than the ultimate defense of capital (fascism).
Fun fact though, liberalism also supports violence (or at least passively accepts it) as long as it is mostly external. We don’t get to choose non-violence. You can attack the people doing violence, join the people doing violence, or accept the people doing violence.
I appreciate your point of view, but from my interactions here, that’s not my experience.
To be clear I am not trying to argue with you here I’m just curious what you think.
What part of what I said have you found to be untrue? What sort of interactions led you to this conclusion?
I certainly reassessed.
Hey, horseshoes aren’t a theory, they’re custom cut and nailed in place…
Yes, but horseshoes invented the theory
Sir Alex horseshoe Who was, in fact a horseshoe
Crabs truly are talented.
Does left and right just mean prosocial Vs antisocial? What do these directions used as political labels even mean? Are they useful labels?
It comes from the French revolution, when the people who wanted a better king sat on the right side of the debate room, and people who wanted to get rid of the king sat on the left. From my understanding, right wing is about incremental improvement on what currently exists (optimistically, current right wing isn’t even about this), while left wing is about questioning what exists and redesigning it from the ground up.
Like the other person said. The social vs antisocial thing is just the modern manifestation; that’s why depending on issue the left will argue for personal autonomy while the right will be pro-tradition and “family values.”
It’s about hierarchy. Leftists want equality, fairness, freedom from power. Rightists want authority, order, freedom for power.
Thanks for supporting the death of people who need modern medicine I guess?
enjoy shitting in a bucket, in the dark.
anarcho primitivists aren’t going to keep the lights on and water going.
Oh my sweet summer child. I’ve been shitting in a bucket I could dump on my compost pile in the dark for a hot minute; because really, do you need a light to see where you poop? It just kinda comes out of you. We’re just keeping the lights on and the water flowing for those of you who can’t figure out not to poop upstream.
What does that flag represent?
If “return to monke” was a political ideology.
One of the most complex social species to ever evolve, not only self-aware but aware that others possess the same awareness. Conquered pretty much every habitable niche on the planet, and quite a few that really shouldn’t have been but still thrived. Domesticated a predator and rival while it was still a threat, then domesticated more animals and plants; can still eat damn near anything and survive. The world’s foremost toolmakers, recorders of knowledge, and perpetually curious. We have so much potential but instead still along shit at one another and befoul the places we live in. We could do better with ourselves than be apes in suburbia.
“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Human self-awareness and what we’ve done with merits some acknowledgment of how it’s helped us become what we are (better or worse). But it’s definitely not something we can lay sole claim to. There’s plenty of others that have their own version that came with whatever evolution drove them to. We do remain the one species that can really, really reshape the environment and landscapes outside of what we need to survive (compared to beavers, who can build wetlands but don’t know exactly what they’re doing). The fact that we know why we’re doing, and that often our actions have negative consequences, is why we owe it to the rest of the beings on this planet to do better.
This explains a lot, actually.
What if my political spectrum isn’t on the spectrum at all.
Right wing wants to ban all abortion. Left wing wants all requested abortion to be legal.
Whereas I want mandatory abortion on all pregnancies. I’m not pro-life. I’m not pro-choice. I’m pro-death. Everybody dies!
I also fully support nuking cities, but only as a means of killing all humans. It’s not a political or religious statement.
Actually, can we invent nukes that kill all the humans, but don’t affect the animals? I’m ok with life on earth, just as long as that life isn’t human. Cats are cool. They just look at humans, and judge them, and enslave them. If only they had opposable thumbs, they could take over the world.
As it stands the dominant species on this planet is so dumb it hates other members of it’s own species, just for being a darker shade skin. Or for believing in a different theoretical invisable man in the sky.
And why’s God/Allah/whomever always depicted as male? Why would an omnipresent spirit have genitals at all? Yeah, choke on that. If God did exist, it’s trans by default. And for all you know God and Allah are the same, in the same way that manzanas and apples are the same thing. Jose is eating a manzana, and Bob is eating an apple. Corporate wants you to find the difference in these pictures.
And can we get a government policy that takes a firm stance on vampires? Not ONE government has a prewritten policy on the matter! You can’t convince me Batman isn’t a vampire!
So, lets start a tax system where all of the residents force feed the president bird seed until he throws up, and then use eugenics to create cats capable of mind control. That’s my political stance, and no candidates represent me! These are the flaws in a two party system. There’s a very significant chance that neither party has your best interest at heart.
Can’t get enough of that sugar crisp…keeps me going strong (to kill all the humans)
I think tankies are further right than most leftists, but you’re welcome to call everyone to the left of you soulists.
Yes, I have a left hand and a right hand. I even have a left leg and a right leg. I even have both feet.
None of my appendages are politically oriented either way…
That’s just because you don’t have wings
Who told you that? I’m gonna go flap the fuck out of them!
After I find some wings anyways…
Might I suggest a Red Bull?
Wow, tell those fence sitting appendages to pick a side.
I sit comfortably…
