Thing is, they claim that they care about religion. Not sure how many deadly sins they are gobbling up with all of that because something doesn’t add up.

It wasn’t US propaganda though. At most it was Austrian propaganda. Maybe I am also colouring childhood memories as well. It was just the general sentiment that Czechoslovakia is a polluted heavy industrial place and it was not entirely wrong everywhere either. But then, same could be said about the Ruhrgebiet back in the days of West Germany.

The Iron Curtain was incredibly entrenched in many minds, in some minds it is to this very day, more than 35 years after it has fallen. The funny thing is that the Iron Curtain was not nearly the unsurmountable obstacle even while it existed, at least for Austrians. You could actually visit most of these places as tourist, in the case of Hungary even fairly easy but even where the Iron Curtain still a fairly serious installation.

That’s a great choice, where the urban layout allows for it, without feeling suicidal. I know also the US has places where this is perfectly feasible.

Why are you leaving out a key part of my argument? You know you are still talking to the same person, aren’t you.

I was talking about a complete functional weapon in the first post. And in the latter I was talking about the easiest to produce parts alone, which could be oriduced even with something like woodworking tools.

Would you also say that a carpenter can build firearms? Possibly you do, I wouldn’t do that.

Not that far off. In Vienna for example petrol starts currently at 1.6 EUR/L (7.1 USD/gal) and Diesel is around 1.8 EUR/L (>8 USD/gal).

The US has a serious problem of being hooked on unsustainably cheap fuel due to oversized vehicles, spread out, car only, suburbia etc. Add to that the lagging transition to renewables (or rather the outright hostility of the US administration, actively preventing projects)

I remember the anti-communist images of soot ridden grey towns next to steel works in some school book.Turns out it was an image of the future from the US, apparently. Minus the steel works I guess but all those gas turbines next to Tech oligarch data centers are not much behind that in terms of pollution.

PLA is a poor material choice for the application but an easy one. So they might not care. I am not saying that it is dysfunctional, just not a good choice.

PLA hydrolises over time, and becomes brittle and is sensitive to UV, ie day light. It is enough to leave it in a sunny place with some glass reflection for it to soften up and deform but the worst features is probably that unlike many other polymers it tends to fail catastrophically, when it fails, ie nothing much happens until it snaps and splinters. Its impact resistance is also comparably poor.

You seem to run in doors that are open. My whole point was that 3d printing is not suitable to create the functional parts of a fire arm, and by that I mean creating it directly with 3d printing, not some helper products and I also mean for hobbyist levels. Maybe with metal 3d printing etc more is possible but that is neither easy nor cheap nor readily available in anyone’s basement. It is easier to get your hands on a CNC and probably cheaper too.

If your argument is that for what 3d printing can be used, it is a fairly easy method and can enable cost effective low number production, yes it can. So yes, if you will, then it has made it more accessible for those things. If someone want to regulate private firearm construction however, just regulate private firearm construction. Don’t outlaw open 3d printers, CNCs or if we are at it, woodwork tools.

Interesting read. I did not know about the honestly horribly ineffective (if not outgright dysfunctional) legislation in much of the US in this regard. I was however having functional arguments in mind though. The functional core components of a Glock are not made from organic polymers, for a reason.

Yes, printing the frame of a firearm is perfectly feasible. But if you don’t know your tool and its materials, you are putting yourself at risk. It is really like with all those other tools that can produce such a frame just as well. But then, if you say most people print it with PLA you might have a strong point that most people 3d printing that don’t know what they are doing or don’t care about PLA’s serious limitations for that application, and do it anyway.

PS: I wouldn’t consider using a 3D printed jig … and ECM as a part being produced by 3d printing. A helper part is for producing it by other means is 3d printed. Again, plenty of alternative methods to do so. Are they all going to be restricted?

Technicalities are important. Parties can campaign on that and peopld vote on it but there us no obligation, only majorities in Parliament. Things like that, the letter of thff es law start to matter especially during constitional crises.

Trump is nervous about the mid terms for a reason. His agenda of dismantlig state institutions, rule of law and democracy could run into a dead lock with an actively hostile legislative.

Still these votes are for Parliament/MPs on the ballot, not the prime minister directly, aren’t they. Yes, parties will campaign with a certain perdon as prime minister in mind, but that position is not directly elected, is it?

Trump can only rule by executive orders because the other institutions let him and majd no fuss. Things would get a whole lot mire diffucult for him if the majority in the legislative actually did make a fuss about it.

Hungary did not elect a prime minister, it elected a parliament. The new govnernment incl the prime minister is just a consequence of parliamentary majorities, which changed.

The US is an odd one, as it elects just a part if its legislative but it does elect that part nonetheless. While that won’t push the US president out if power, it could turn him into a lame duck. The destruction of the US democracy and state institutions relies on the legislative being complicit and staying silent.

The prime purpose for those loans is spending on European defense products. That is also part of the loan criteria.

What a load of nonsense.

Targetting commercial offers would not cut it though. They would have to make octoprint, open source firmware etc a crime. A lot of printer run exclusively on non-commercial software and on Chinese control boards, with or without raspberry pi.

If it is so obvious, you could easily show me a source with the number of victims of 3d printed fire weapons, legally owned commercial fire weapons and illegally owned commercial fire weapons, in California or the US as a whole.

Or were you commenting on the suitability of FDM or resin printers for producing critical function parts of fire weapons? Which of the parts one could produce via FDM or resin, that couldn’t be produced with subtractive manufacturing methods? Please elaborate with actual arguments.

I mean he is not lying here for once. Orban was one of the EU leaders who was doing everything he could to undermine and prevent European sovereignty and make us all colonies to foreign powers, or further fortify that position. The US and Russian regime liked that.

Fair, however, the point remains, that the whole 3D printers are dangerous weapon manufacturing sources is BS. 3D printers, at least those affordable to hobbyists are a damn poor choice for creating fire weapons. Yes, you can print some non-critical parts but that’s about it. How many people died due to 3d printed guns in the US and how many to legally/illegally owned?

That’s all oddly specific.

You surely meant to say Hungry Pete, right?

I am confused. I only see 3 who always lie. Is it that one of them also doesn’t understand the situation?