I just dont see a point anymore, I applied to every IT role under the sun and nothing, IT was jut step down cause I grew up and realized, I had better chances of winning the lottery than getting a game Dev job, or hevk really any cs gig that did anything cool. I tried to make the best of that decision, now I’m realizing there is a very high likelyhood I just work at Walmart forever, and I’m like fuck that. My firnefs tell me thats okay everyone hates their job I need to grow the fuck up. Like dude what the actual fuck. Your telling me I’m gonna spend 40 hours week of my life, not be able to afford anything nice or even have time. And die alone at 70 fuck that. The second my parents die, I’m the literal second I get the call, buying a gun, and driving out in the middle of no where, eating my favorite food I bought on credit card and pulling the trigger. There ain’t nothing to live for, I’m autistic anti social, fuck this shit. I didn’t habe fun, the past 24 years have been shit. No one cares about me, fuck it. I’m done. I cried for the past 6 hours the only thought of joy I fucking had was blowing my brains out. To not have to do this fucking shit anymore. I fucking hating it. I hate myself too.

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    Hi. I’m in a similar position. Want to make a game? I am somewhat familiar with Love2d and Godot. I like programming but having trouble with actually creating something.

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    Oh sweetheart, you sound so angry and so sad and so exhausted. I really feel for you - grieving your optimism and your hope. It’s so so hard when you feel so worn out.

    There is some chance you will work at Walmart for some time but it is not definite.

    Things change and they’ve been so absolutely shit for a while now that they have to soon. I can’t tell if you already work full-time or not but having a stable wage makes life much easier. There is a silver lining.

    Game dev is not simple to get into. This doesn’t mean you’ll never develop games, I promise.

    Having to accept the nature of being working class and having to work forever is really painful and it’s okay to find it really painful and why wouldn’t you. It is complete bullshit. It is easier when you have a job you don’t hate though or at least get to feel like you’re expressing your values through.

    I’m here for advice if you want practical advice but I think what you need right now is just mainly sympathy.

    It is really hard, anyone would find it sad, and is extremely scary to find suicide an attractive option. I’m so sorry you feel so scared at the moment. What you need is to just get through the day at the moment.

    Don’t focus too much on the future, just focus on looking after yourself. It won’t fix everything but it will get you through the bad days until you can problem solve again. Eating, washing, clean clothes, fresh air, getting some rest (ideally sleep but if you can’t sleep, dark room, stay warm, nature sounds, that kind of thing).

    Sometimes you have to go through waves of these feelings so just try and hunker down and get through it. Our brains suggest lots of ideas to try and problem solve in difficult scenarios and sometimes they suggest really bad ones which can be really scary. Sometimes you have to just kind of be like " okay brain, I know that’s what you think is a good idea right now but we’re just going to do something else for a bit". And then you get the control back.

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      I’m on leave from work cause I nearly got fired, truthfully I’m too disabled to be doing thay much ohyically labor at the speed they want. But what choice do I have, I’m nervous as I go back on the 29th, and I’m worse now. I ball my eyes out a lot. Its not so much about I have to work forever, but its the fact there’s nothing left really, like if I did work retail forever what is the point exactly. Life is the passage of time, and how you spend that. If I spent 99% of it in some box all day, pushing Freight I can’t afford, getting yelled at by people richer than me. As I get sicker and sadder. What’s the point. Its so bad I disassosite, I lost 3 entire weeks of my life, I did not remember any of it. Just gone like it never happened, my brain deleted it. This happens so much, the time between last April and this April genunily feel like a couple of months ago to me. I just want more than this, anything more then this. I want out.

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        I’m so sorry to hear all that… You are dealing with a fuck ton of pressure! Not surprised you want to get rid of all this and sort it out.

        I completely understand about the fear of the passage of time and I feel very aware of my mortality so I really get what you’re saying. I just tried to spend my time as best I can and part of that is earning a wage so that I can at least buy the things I want to do on my time off or not have to worry about the basics (food, bills, housing, meds)

        All I can advise is just keep trying to look after the basics - it makes the bad stuff easier and that effect will stack and then it becomes easier.

        I always say weed can be really helpful because it makes you forget the stressful things in your life but the problem is then you don’t address the stressful things in your life, which keeps you in limbo, if you know what I mean.

        Going back after being off work succkkkkkssss. I’ve always found it so embarrassing weird and awkward. Are you able to at least not stay at work on your lunch break or whatever, just get out and go for a walk to get some space?

        Sorry if you have shitty working conditions and what I’m describing isn’t even possible! If you can’t go for a walk can you find somewhere quiet to just hideout? I used to go and lie on the floor in the prayer room to decompress at work cuz no one ever prayed in there 👍😁

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          I smoke weed if I can get my hands on it which is rarer are rarer these days, I snort crushed uo concerta, doesn’t do much anymore, had better luck actually taking it as prescribed, I used to feel something when I did.

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            No shame with the drugs, and that maybe part of your problem. Bring nerodivergent with mental illness can really fuck you up with how drugs work for you. Depending on how (not) addicted you are it maybe worth going sober and see if that helps.

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          I used to hang out with people but then they got their own lives, I sometimes play video games. Recently its gotten to a point where I dont habe much energy so I just end up sleeping. I sleep like 12 hours a day normally, since my body physically takes that long to recover after a day of doing stuff.

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    It’s rough out there.

    Can I offer some insight? You probably don’t want a game dev job. You probably want to develop games. They’re… Wildly different day-to-days.

    I felt the “if my parents go I have nothing left” all through my adolescence.

    Maybe you’re looking advice. Maybe not. If you are, I’d say just develop games. Get lost in it in your free time. Not as a resume builder. Because it makes you not miserable.

    In the mean time, keep looking for any cs gig. Good entry point advice: state tech support. Most states are almost always hiring IT at some level. The DMV, the school district, the library, the local police dept (acab, it’s a job), local hospital, courthouses, post offices, etc. sometimes the repeat fail on getting interviews is because you’re applying the same way (indeed, LinkedIn). Find jobs offered directly on websites. Etc.

    I know when I was at my depths, I’d have hated and disagreed with this part, but if you’re stuck in your head hating yourself and feeling depressed… Go for a walk. An hour or two a day. Exercise is more reliable for treating depression than any antidepressant on the market. I know people reading this are saying “it won’t help” because I was reading it and saying it too.

    I’ll ramble. I used an app to track my mood for years. I live in a wintery state. I used to force myself to hike a small hill in my area every day in April. If I go back and look at my mood log over the last 8 years, every April I actually tried has by far the biggest concentration of smiley faces and lowest concentration of frowny faces. Exercise isn’t a physical challenge. It’s a logistical challenge. It’s about getting off your ass and completing a goal, getting your heart rate elevated, and hydrating. It forces you to meditate while you breathe during your exercise, you can’t ruminate and spiral. You can only breathe.

    Idk sorry, got a bit rambly. Good luck out there. Download Godot and code up a simple game. Share it with your friends, Lemmy, idk. Make it available to download from a website you host for a few bucks a year. Keep adding games. Throw them up on steam. You got this.

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    I spent a lot of years fucking miserable making shit for money, and yeah, it’s demoralizing.

    You wanna be useful to society and make a decent middle class income? Join the union construction trades. Specifically, join an apprenticeship. You’ll likely start around 20 an hour, maybe a tad more. You’ll get an education that costs you nothing and depending on your chosen trade you’ll probably be making between $40-50 an hour when you graduate. You’ll never need to submit a resume again, because your union hiring hall finds work for you and assigns you to jobs.

    You’ll wake up early. You’ll pull some long hours. But you’ll also make six figures and live with a sense of accomplishment when you drive past the roads, bridges, hospitals and schools you helped build. Many of the unions have old school pensions. Most have stellar healthcare and other benefits.

    Look up “union electricians (insert city or region)” to find a website for the local near you. Operating Engineers, pipefitters, and Millwrights are also great choices. Start with the electricians though. Trust me. It can take a while to actually get in a program, but it’s worth a little patience.

    It’s not a perfect life, but it’s a good one. Good enough to stay alive for.

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      Unfortunately I’m disabled, as much as I would love to grind the trades and then live as cheaply as possible so I didn’t need to work, my body just isnt good enough. Choose sitting behind a terminal bashing the keyboard for that reason.

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        I’ve worked manufacturing gigs where they just plop your ass at a machine all day inspecting whatever comes off the line and putting it into a box. Medical supply factories are good for this, theyre clean, and you don’t have to deal with people. Boring as hell, but after working retail myself for so long, the jump to manufacturing was welcome.

        You dont need to do any fancy apprenticeship for this, walk into a staffing agency to help you get your foot into the door. It worked for me, maybe it wont work for you, but maybe it will. When one is desperate, its worth trying anything no?

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    I’ve had times when I’ve felt exactly the same. And the conclusion that I’ve come to, and the mantra that I repeat to myself is:

    “Who you are, What you do, and how you pay your bills” don’t need to be the same thing. And in fact you don’t want them to be.

    Two out of the three is fine. But all three being the same should be avoided like the plague.

    After 9/11 completely tanked my planned career in Near Eastern Classical Archaeology, I floated around for a bit. Got some IT certs, but mostly have worked a series of crappy retail management gigs. And yeah…for a long time, it bothered the fuck out of me. It didn’t help that I suffered from depression. But I get that same “what’s the point feeling”.

    But I’ve also written for my entire life, and I have a number of things that I’m become decent to good at over the years that I’ve used for passion projects. I was bored so I learned video editing and use those skills on other people’s low budget projects. I have a decent level of Blender knowledge and I enjoy flight simming, so I spend a lot of time creating aircraft for X-Plane. Both of those have netted me very minor amounts of money through paypal donations, etc… But that’s secondary to doing something that I love because I don’t need them to pay my bills for me.

    So while retail management is how I pay my bills, it’s not who I am and it’s not what I do. In fact I tried doing the freelance writing thing for a bit and I ended up miserable because What I do and How I pay the bills became the same thing and it stopped being fun.

    Retail management pays my bills, and allows me the free-time necessary to pursue my passions in my free time.

    Long story short, and I apologize if you don’t find this helpful at all, but you’re biggest disservice to yourself is thinking that “working at Walmart” is who you are. It’s not. It’s just how you pay the bills so that you can pursue your actual talents on a full belly.

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    if you’re employable and have any kind of social network, then you still have options and the realistic possibility that something better will come along. Sometimes life can surprise you, especially if you’re still young and energetic. If you’re crying you can’t have completely run out of fucks. That tells me you still have a chance.

    Having said that I am also waiting for my parents to croak so i can exit this nightmarish hellworld lol

    We’re all gonna die eventually man, just be patient and have a little fun before then

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    Take a deep breath. Calm yourself. Now, get those people who tell you to suck it up out of your life - they aren’t good for you.

    Next, realize you are not alone. I, for example, was a software engineer my entire career, and have been unemployed for over a year now. I have no prospects. I’m looking for other things to do, spending time outside, biking, etc.

    I, too, am despairing, but I’m not going to check out, and neither should you.

    Don’t hate yourself. It isn’t your failure. Don’t hate at all. I don’t know what to do either, but there are many of us and we need to find each other and band together for survival and community. If AI pans out as these greedy bastards want, everybody will be out here in the same place as us real soon, and that’s how revolutions gain momentum.

    Revolutions need leaders and visionaries. Maybe that can be people like us. It’s not like we have anything to lose, is it?

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    My life is the consequence of a previous-suicide, committed by a human-category-life that my soul/continuum had before this-life.

    Universe recycles ALL energies contained in it, even meaning-energy.

    Suicide means waking-up in another life, later, worse-off: all the karma one had on one, before, AND the karma of suicide on top, making things worse.

    If you won’t believe that universe CONTAINS the meaning-energy in it, & that universe’s recycling of ALL energies contained in it, which is the magical-“reasoning” of the materialist/physicalists ( yes, if meaning *consistently alters the behavior of matter, then that ITSELF proves that meaning is physics-REAL, no matter what institutionalized making-believing believes-in ) …

    if you won’t believe that universe contains, & will-recycle, you/your-meaning, then by all means make your future-someone’s life worse, & pretend that you’ve no responsibility for doing that…

    Sorry to be gruff, but I’d rather people learn this through my mistakes than through millenia of their-own.


    The problem, that the New Age types ignore/deny, is that karma can be gained through both yin and yang cause:

    • my soul/continuum wouldn’t believe that murder was in-universe-real, therefore it committed denial against murder, got in murder’s face, & … essentially pulled murder onto this-soul/continuum’s cycle. That is yin-acquiring-karma

    • some continuums/souls murder because they can’t believe that others are real, & therefore can’t believe that there are any consequences for them. That is yang-acquiring-karma.

    BOTH acquire karma.

    ALL the continuums/souls which, being unconscious/inexperienced/ignorant don’t believe that evil is real … are prone to getting in evil’s face, getting obliterated by evil, & then spending millenia climbing-up “Jacob’s Ladder” through universe’s recycling of their-continuum.

    All the souls who were unable to believe that the inquisition or the 1000+ nazi extermination-camps, or the American Indian human-sacrifice-cults, or the holocausting of the Israelites described in Deuteronomy 20:17 ( “17 Rather you must destroy them completely — the Hitti, the Emori, the Kena‘ani, the P’rizi, the Hivi and the Y’vusi — as Adonai your God has ordered you;” CJB version ), or the holocaustings in Asia, or in Africa, or between non-Jewish Semitic peoples ( Arabs included ), or by the Romans … all the souls who were unable-to-believe that that is in-universe-real, & go get themselves caught in it … then have no alternative but to work-through what they got themselves caught-in.

    It can’t be avoided.

    It’s like the endless-stream-of-universes is a special trap which entraps ignorant-souls especially-well…

    But, exactly as both Hindus & Buddhas have explained: it is entirely possible to harness/yoga one’s mind, & to evolve one’s mind until nothing in the outer-world is able to harm one, anymore: then one’s inner-wealth is sooo great, that one cannot ever be impoverished.

    One has earned wealth that one can take with one then, see?

    Please read the big-3 books by Elisabeth Haich ( who isn’t AwakeSoulist/Buddhist, as I am )

    • “Initiation”
    • “The Wisdom of the Tarot”, on the archetype-states of human-life’s sentience and why they are presented as shuffleable-“cards”, because different lives experience them in different order ( the ebook version doesn’t include the archetype-illustrations: get the physical-book )
    • “Sexual ENERGY & Yoga”, on why souls caught-in-lives are “male” or “female”, & why they want other-than-themselves, which is actually a mistaken perspective, incorrectly believing that what-completes-one is external, instead of one’s-own-latent-soul, which is only realizable within.

    Haich gives more profound-psychology in her Tarot book, than I’ve ever found in any other book in Engish.

    Please also read Huston Smith’s “World Religions”, to gain much better framing of human-meaning, life, & world, so you better understand that each branch of humankind specialized in 1 fraction of human-meaning, & each got deep-gift in that-branch’s meaning, but now we have to grow-up enough to understand that different individuals need different-branches, so your need may be matched by 1-specific-kind-of-religion, and that might not be the one you were born into…

    Huston Smith doesn’t pull punches: his books give real intellectual-exercise.

    ( because I’d experienced soul-memories of other-kinds-of-lives, years earlier, & been forced to ditch the Abrahamic-religions because they were too dumbed-down to match the evidence that carved itself into me, I only read the Hindu, Buddhist, & Primal religion chapters in his book.

    & those 3 chapters gave me sooo much leverage, that I outright recommend the book to anyone who’s got the mental-horsepower to earn that book’s meanings.

    It changes one’s eyes, so one sees the world-of-human-meaning differently.

    I now know that the Buddhists would be wise to understand the Primal religions’ key-understanding, as a means of removing ego/self…

    only providing this extra-context so you understand that the gold in it from your perspective is going to be different from the gold in it from “my” perspective. : )


    As Stephen R. Covey identified, in the important “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Families”, you can’t always choose your circumstance, but you CAN choose how you are, inside, & that decides how your reaction-to circumstance is.

    Some would say “what’s the point”, if one can’t be a professional-geek … ?

    IF one can’t be a professional geek, well, that’s circumstance on one’s life.

    Does that mean one can’t geek?

    on one’s own…

    ?

    For the 2-million-years before the IBM PC, personal geeking wasn’t really a thing, was it?

    All the ones throughout our known history who couldn’t play with computers … all their lives unable to engage what we can do, now, easily.

    Including the greatest programmer in history: Lady Ada of Lovelace ( no university, recursive calculus program, 1 century before computers worked ).


    You’re responsible for your-continuum’s/soul’s future-condition/consequences.

    Same as I’m responsible for mine’s.

    I may not like it, I may hate my life most of the time, but that-context is non-negotiable.

    & the well-below-thinking level of instinct-fear of the consequences of suiciding again … that is real.

    I’ve nearly done it repeatedly, but always either that underlying-fear, or someone’s intervention, or “mere coincidence” intervened, to derail it.

    So, I’m paying it forward by trying to get you to understand that universe isn’t escapable, now, before you make the same Eternity-damaging-mistake I did, in some previous life.


    Sorry if I don’t reply to anybody’s reply-to-this, I’ve got 840 notifications on here, & I only live for insights/understandings, not for tangling-lives-together: I want out, & the ONLY out is earning my soul’s/continuum’s release-from-“me”, permanently:

    making it OUTGROW this-kind-of-life, so apologies in advance.


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