Yeah, nazism was not tolerated under socialism. After 1991 fascism exploded in all postsocialist countries, in Ukraine it was also specifically aided by the USA and Canada where a lot of banderites went after war and they were able to go back and participate in the looting of Ukraine.
Not everything evil is nazism, theres plenty other brands of fascism. Not all nationalism is fascist (see IRA, PKK et all).
After 1991 fascism exploded in all postsocialist countries
Huh, just as if 60 years of soviet communism was not enough to convince people it’s a better option. Interesting. I do hope you do include Russia in that where it’s fascist movements, gangsters and capitalist cronies took over power and rule until now?
there’s a well documented history of the ruling class fostering fascist causes to take down socialist efforts and the rise of neo-nazism in post socialist countries – including ukraine – is another chapter of it.
Yes, but how do they achieve that in a blink of an eye since the communism fals? Most of Ukraine has been under Soviet control since 30’s. That’s 70 years, easily 3 generations of people who were raised in it. Then magic, western capitalists elites drop ads for fascism onto people and they turn en mass? Maybe there were some other reasons for that than just the West’s doing? Or was it also capitalist ruling class conducting an antisemitic purge in Poland in 1968?
none of it was created in a blink of an eye. ukranian separatism, for example, has existed for centuries and was fostered by the monarchies of western europe as a foil against the russian monarchy.
the ruling classes don’t create fascist movements, they just help spur them along where they would have died out naturally otherwise and as a means to achieve their goals.
ukranian separatism, for example, has existed for centuries and was fostered by the monarchies of western europe as a foil against the russian monarchy.
So monarchical claims are your only perspective of peoples living between Eastern and Western empires? Great, great, wonder why people choose evil ideologies giving them at least the impression of being in charge, over your benevolent subjugation of them to any absolutist power in a 1000km radius.
First Bandera statue was erected in Lviv in 1992
Lol that’s probably when this documentary tool place.
Maybe cuz it was soviet union untill about then?
Yeah, nazism was not tolerated under socialism. After 1991 fascism exploded in all postsocialist countries, in Ukraine it was also specifically aided by the USA and Canada where a lot of banderites went after war and they were able to go back and participate in the looting of Ukraine.
Not everything evil is nazism, theres plenty other brands of fascism. Not all nationalism is fascist (see IRA, PKK et all).
Huh, just as if 60 years of soviet communism was not enough to convince people it’s a better option. Interesting. I do hope you do include Russia in that where it’s fascist movements, gangsters and capitalist cronies took over power and rule until now?
there’s a well documented history of the ruling class fostering fascist causes to take down socialist efforts and the rise of neo-nazism in post socialist countries – including ukraine – is another chapter of it.
Yes, but how do they achieve that in a blink of an eye since the communism fals? Most of Ukraine has been under Soviet control since 30’s. That’s 70 years, easily 3 generations of people who were raised in it. Then magic, western capitalists elites drop ads for fascism onto people and they turn en mass? Maybe there were some other reasons for that than just the West’s doing? Or was it also capitalist ruling class conducting an antisemitic purge in Poland in 1968?
none of it was created in a blink of an eye. ukranian separatism, for example, has existed for centuries and was fostered by the monarchies of western europe as a foil against the russian monarchy.
the ruling classes don’t create fascist movements, they just help spur them along where they would have died out naturally otherwise and as a means to achieve their goals.
So monarchical claims are your only perspective of peoples living between Eastern and Western empires? Great, great, wonder why people choose evil ideologies giving them at least the impression of being in charge, over your benevolent subjugation of them to any absolutist power in a 1000km radius.
it’s a only the single most relevant example in this discussion, but sure, frame it however you want.