there’s a well documented history of the ruling class fostering fascist causes to take down socialist efforts and the rise of neo-nazism in post socialist countries – including ukraine – is another chapter of it.
Yes, but how do they achieve that in a blink of an eye since the communism fals? Most of Ukraine has been under Soviet control since 30’s. That’s 70 years, easily 3 generations of people who were raised in it. Then magic, western capitalists elites drop ads for fascism onto people and they turn en mass? Maybe there were some other reasons for that than just the West’s doing? Or was it also capitalist ruling class conducting an antisemitic purge in Poland in 1968?
none of it was created in a blink of an eye. ukranian separatism, for example, has existed for centuries and was fostered by the monarchies of western europe as a foil against the russian monarchy.
the ruling classes don’t create fascist movements, they just help spur them along where they would have died out naturally otherwise and as a means to achieve their goals.
ukranian separatism, for example, has existed for centuries and was fostered by the monarchies of western europe as a foil against the russian monarchy.
So monarchical claims are your only perspective of peoples living between Eastern and Western empires? Great, great, wonder why people choose evil ideologies giving them at least the impression of being in charge, over your benevolent subjugation of them to any absolutist power in a 1000km radius.
Could you explain to me why should its ex-colonies care about the faith of Russia? And for that matter why shouldn’t we side with the enemy of our oppressors?
Maybe you attach some absurd nostalgia to something that never was, but we’ve lived it. I have a soviet stampt in my passport. But now its nothing more than another capitalist oligarchic imperialist regime. You spin your exuses and supposed necessities of some imperialist bullshit but its people in the region who live this, not your imaginary chess pieces.
there’s a well documented history of the ruling class fostering fascist causes to take down socialist efforts and the rise of neo-nazism in post socialist countries – including ukraine – is another chapter of it.
Yes, but how do they achieve that in a blink of an eye since the communism fals? Most of Ukraine has been under Soviet control since 30’s. That’s 70 years, easily 3 generations of people who were raised in it. Then magic, western capitalists elites drop ads for fascism onto people and they turn en mass? Maybe there were some other reasons for that than just the West’s doing? Or was it also capitalist ruling class conducting an antisemitic purge in Poland in 1968?
none of it was created in a blink of an eye. ukranian separatism, for example, has existed for centuries and was fostered by the monarchies of western europe as a foil against the russian monarchy.
the ruling classes don’t create fascist movements, they just help spur them along where they would have died out naturally otherwise and as a means to achieve their goals.
So monarchical claims are your only perspective of peoples living between Eastern and Western empires? Great, great, wonder why people choose evil ideologies giving them at least the impression of being in charge, over your benevolent subjugation of them to any absolutist power in a 1000km radius.
it’s a only the single most relevant example in this discussion, but sure, frame it however you want.
What, giving monarchies power over people? Yes, you seem to be consistently in favour.
ukraine being used as pawn to stifle russia
Could you explain to me why should its ex-colonies care about the faith of Russia? And for that matter why shouldn’t we side with the enemy of our oppressors?
Maybe you attach some absurd nostalgia to something that never was, but we’ve lived it. I have a soviet stampt in my passport. But now its nothing more than another capitalist oligarchic imperialist regime. You spin your exuses and supposed necessities of some imperialist bullshit but its people in the region who live this, not your imaginary chess pieces.