• randomname@lemmy.org
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    14 days ago

    Due to propaganda, not due to having been there and experienced living in China. TikTok videos leave out all the bad stuff, like how you don’t have freedom of speech, and cannot marry your same sex partner. Something “young people” in the west enjoy. And because of the great firewall, we all know only the “right people” have access to western internet.

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      13 days ago

      You’re right that the grass always looks greener on the other side. I’m sure a large number of the Gen Z people who post Chinamaxxing memes only do it in jest and/or wouldn’t do it if they knew a bit more of what they would have to give up to live in China (especially if they’re queer, but otherwise moreso in the realm of access to cheap foreign goods that people in imperialist countries get than “free speech” which anyone on TikTok of all platforms has already learned is never guaranteed in a capitalist country). Yet Western countries seem to be backsliding on those aspects, while the older generation in China that’s stricter and more conservative is aging out of politics. I think you don’t have to be pollyannaish to think that in ~20 years, China will have surpassed the largest issues you might have with it, but it gets harder and harder to think Western countries will do the same.

      we all know only the “right people” have access to western internet

      Quite literally anyone in China is capable of grabbing a VPN and have unsupervised access to the same internet as you and me. The so-called “great firewall” only exists as a means of making it more difficult for Chinese internet users to patronize Western (mostly American) internet services. If there was no firewall, companies like Meta and Google would have access to the Chinese market and it would be hard for local Chinese companies like WeChat or BiliBili to grow.

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      14 days ago

      The great firewall blocks access to particular websites, not the Internet in general. If you go to Chinese social media sites from the western “side” of the great firewall you are interacting with everyone in China on that social media site, not just people using VPNs to access twitter or youtube.

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        14 days ago

        Sure, we can go there where everything is monitored and controlled, but they can’t come here… where they can speak freely.

        Are you a Chinese citizen living in mainland China?

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          13 days ago

          they can’t come here… where they can speak freely.

          You can post on lemmy from mainland China, I’ve done it.

          The only instances that are blocked are Hexbear and .ml, and you can still use a VPN or HK-based esim to get around it.