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    26 days ago

    Aye, he dropped in my estimations but not for the reasons the article is trying to convey. He shouldn’t have apologised and instead stuck to his guns.

    The fuzz aren’t above the law and police brutality shouldn’t be normalised. It was excessive force for a person already restrained.

    We’ve seen from America what happens if you let the police say they were scared, or it was stressful, or any number of excuses before brutalising someone. They learn the script and use it freely at will after that.

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      25 days ago

      I’ve seen the videos, you would have to be blind or a moron to come to the conclusion that someone trying to slash at the arresting officers is in any way “already restrained”.

      So which are you?

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        25 days ago

        I’ve also seen the videos and you would be the moron to come to the conclusion that multiple supposedly highly trained officers booting a pinned and tasered assailant in the head repeatedly is professional or appropriate conduct.

        It’s a knife, a weapon which humans have known how to deal with since time immemorial, not an AR-15. Strathclyde Police (when they were a thing) used to go around the country training other police forces in how to deal with knife crime without resorting to brutality. But apparently that’s too difficult for the people that wear stab proof vests, have batons, tasers, pepper spray, and multiple other officers backing them up… You really need to stop living up to your name.

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          25 days ago

          Obviously I forgot the third option; you believe stabbing random Jewish people in the street is ok.

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            25 days ago

            obviously not - yet stabbing a Muslim man in his home is so fine it barely gets reported?

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            25 days ago

            Aww, is BigBaby unable to refute my argument and instead has to resort to ridiculous accusations?

            Always be accusing is the tactic of the idiot far right after all.

            Maybe you enjoy watching videos of men in big boots kicking people’s heads in a bit too much…

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              25 days ago

              Hmm interesting you haven’t denied it.

              I’ve given full frank and unbiased responses to your other threads pointing out what any reasonable person would understand the circumstances and engaged in good faith but that was before I saw your post history.

              Based on that I firmly believe you are driven by your hatred for the victims (who as I write this are still recovering in hospital) not the wellbeing of the attacker (who was discharged from hospital shortly after the event).

              I hope you grow up soon.

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                  25 days ago

                  Yes objective truth (saying what is in the video) backed up with evidence (the video) can be biased depending on your perspective.

                  I prefer a rather simplistic view that killing people is bad and stopping someone from killing people is good.

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                    It is not objective truth. The object truth is:

                    The video shows two officers repeatedly kicking a prone individual in the head and a third officer arriving on scene.

                    Objectively that’s not a good look. Seems like brutality to me especially because police training when dealing with a knife wielding individual explicitly tells you to not close the distance between you. So by your own logic you vomit. They’re expressing poor training and kicking a prone individual in the head who, to me, appears unconscious before even the first kick but definitely at least dazed after the second.

                    So objectively you’re fucking wrong bonehead bozo. Just cause you can use words doesn’t mean you’re right. It’s not objective truth .

                    Obviously I forgot the third option; you believe stabbing random Jewish people in the street is ok.

                    This is not Frank or unbiased. This is pissy baby made boom boom and cries when people tell him he’s wrong. Objectively you’re being a dumb wimp.

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                25 days ago

                Interesting you haven’t denied being a BigBaby…

                claims to have engaged in good faith

                opens with “you must be blind or a moron”

                K.

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          25 days ago

          That proves my point exactly. They stop kicking him in the head when the knife is released. I don’t think you understand the world around yuu if you think that is in any way unacceptable.

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            25 days ago

            so you’re saying that standard police training for disarming people is repeatedly kicking them in the head when they’re on the ground until they drop the weapon?

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              25 days ago

              Like anyone they are entitled to use proportionate force to secure their safety and that of the public.

              Do you know what a 3 inch blade can do when it severs your femoral artery?

              I already know the answer is no because otherwise you would have the brains to shut up.

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            25 days ago

            You understand how human muscles respond to tasers (electricity), right?..

            Probably not, high school science is probably beyond your comprehension.

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              25 days ago

              I know full well how the body responds to tazers but also I have eyes and can see the razer barb on the floor not in the (attempted) murderer.

              I think you really need to have a good look at your attitude this is the real world not some idealised training scenario.

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        25 days ago

        The only conviction of a uk police office for killing someone in the line of duty was because he kicked the guy in the head.

        Yet morons like you can’t seem to grasp a simple fucking point and do nothing but flounder with trying to equate people advising that police don’t use unnecessary force, especially with impunity, to being happy, or even advocating, Jewish getting stabbed.

        Give your head a wobble and stop being a tool

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          25 days ago

          I wobbled my head and came to the conclusion that context is very important.

          Dalian Atkinson was unarmed and had not been reported as attacking anyone when he was unlawfully killed (not murdered, the killer was found not guilty of murder in an earlier trial). He was also reported to be in mental distress in a situation that could have been de-escalated rather than using force.

          That is very different to witnessing someone stab another person and then having to wrestle the knife from them to stop them killing someone.

          Do you see the difference? because I do.