“Democrats chose genocide over winning in 2024,” one Palestinian rights advocate said. “When does this stop?”

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    3 days ago

    if we get out-human-rights-support 'ed by tucker frickin carlson then we deserve to lose. The dems need to find a way to make it work without aiapc funding. If they do that they can win.

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      3 days ago

      Too many of them are true believers. For example Joe Biden wasn’t a Zionist because of AIPAC. He did it for the love of the game.

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        3 days ago

        Biden was the #1 recipient of AIPAC loot. Its probably how he was picked for Obamas VP and why Obama pretended to like him.

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          It’s worth understanding the causation here. Was Joe Biden a staunch Zionist because of AIPAC funding? Or did AIPAC fund Biden knowing he was a staunch Zionist in order to ensure he would win?

          To me, especially post Oct-7th, Biden seemed like a true believer. He seemed to believe in the Zionist project in the form of unconditional support of the Israeli government (no matter who was in power there) as part of his personal sense of morality. As in, don’t steal , don’t lie, support isreal. It’s why he wasn’t able to even try to reign in Israel no matter how much Bibi humiliated him or openly colluded with Trump or whatever.

          Having a geopolitical stance as a part of your basic personal morality (as opposed to a reasoned stance based on available information) is of course incredibly stupid and dangerous. But that’s my read on Biden.

          Meanwhile a guy like Cory Booker seems to have just knowingly sold out to AIPAC and is now committed to that position. AIPAC is designed to create an easy path for American politicians in terms of a certain degree if good PR in the press and campaign funding. Many politicians simply took that deal. Biden never struck me as one of these, especially not at the end.

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            23 hours ago

            I dont know if it matters if he did it because he’s paid off (which he has been, for his whole career-- he’s a top recipient of AIPAC bribes), or because he is simply a misguided idiot, like you are suggesting, or both? but it hardly matters. The fact is that he clearly violated international and american law both and supported a genocide. He’s a criminal either way regardless of what he believed or when. He’s guilty of aiding and abetting mass murderer of innocent human beings. Back in my day we hung war criminals like Biden (and trump) for crimes of that magnitude. Justice still matters. He should get his trial, and then he should face his punishment.