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America does have the deposits. Granted, they’re concentrated in certain parts of the world but they can be extracted from most soils.

America has a lot of minerals. It gets overshadowed sometimes by Canada, the Gulf and us to a degree but it’s loaded too. I know this because I’ve worked with American geologists, engineers etc both in exploration and gas production; I’m a surveyor. I also know that money drives it all. We are good at finding it and pulling it out, you blokes are exceptional at refining it and engineering the equipment to produce it.

This is the US. If it was viable, either that law wouldn’t exist or they’d improve the conditions enough to do it. If I have to give Americans credit for something, it’s can do if you put money in front of them. Nothing stands in the way of American miners, energy companies and money. We’re listening to them whine in Australia now under Senate inquiry because our lucky country government was too stupid to tax gas properly. That said, I can’t blame them or the Japanese, it was a terrific opportunity.

Not so long ago they hit us up to see if we were interested in accelerating rare earth exploration.

Edit: America has slave Labor too; it’s just dressed in imprisonment and undocumented migrants.

No, I’m an Aussie, my information on this comes from reading a couple of articles on rare earth domination by the Chinese and that affecting US military supply. The two key points were the Chinese moving strategically on it (as someone else pointed out they don’t care, they also mention a US labour law) and American miners not being interested in something with little returns.

At the time other things that were mentioned was us filling a gap. We do have concentrated deposits of certain rare earths in Australia but it’s environmentally contentious here. There were rutile, zircon and ilmenite plants on the sand islands in Queensland but they’re now closed.

To be fair, America outlawed

Okay, thanks for the addition. Let’s be honest, if there was a lot of profit in this, it wouldn’t be stopped. China did it for control of a crucial market.

you make it sound

Nope, simply stating basically why each one doesn’t. I’m well aware it’s slave Labor in some parts and I know Chiba doesn’t give a shit. Not everywhere. We used to extract rare earths in Australia as well and it wasn’t staff treatment or abuse that stooped it here, it was environmental opposition.

Rare earth metals aren’t actually rare, the problem is extracting them from soils cost effectively. I understand it can be a messy process as well.

Oil and other minerals usually occur in one location as singular deposits. Rare earths need to be extracted from large amounts of soil. The US has always had viable reserves of oil, coal and gold.

China has dominated this market because they are prepared to spend non profitable time processing soil for these minerals whereas Americans aren’t.

I think there’s some US rare earth extraction in the mid west.

Yeah I think the next generations will build something else and better, if we don’t destroy it completely.

The biggest loss in the end will be the creative arts and entertainment I guess. The rest isn’t unique to the US, others will fill those holes. As for the empire that really depends where you stand; it offers no protection for many.

I’m now willing for my country to take its chances in a new world and cut some ties. I want AUKUS and the ANZUS treaty scrapped. It’s not just a few politicians and billionaires that are the problem, the country can’t be trusted now. They’ll do it all again.

So I can say that this has changed the approach to a lot of Australians thinking about their next car. The mileage varies in other countries of course and yeah, there’s still the defiant but a few of us are thinking about how our next vehicle is powered, especially those with solar and given they attract a tax rebate.

I’m one of those, three I’ve spoken to in my family are, the next door neighbour is…they’re anecdotal but a cursory glance into what’s going on here backs it up. It’s changing and this recent problem has got people like me looking to accelerate that. I’m looking at an electric van or ute if one’s available as my next car.

I remember what my dad told me about what was going on in outback Australia in regards to horses and cars, the similarities are quite sobering. The arguments were the same; horses for one reason or another would be needed for transport. Petroleum is much broader of course and it will always be needed for other things but here at least transport flipping over in the mind is well underway now.

Yeah he represents them all right. It’s no anomaly.

That bunker is in fact a dumber idea than most of his recent projects.

It’s isolated if the US goes down and so is he.

Aaah this administration reflects so much of the country.

Unreal it is.

‘b3TTeR tH3n t3h c0@LiTioN but’

This will just lose Labor voters. Not all of them will go left.

Lucky Country Labor gonna Labe

Not to people outside the US it isn’t

Yeah it’s a pain in the arse, fortunately we have preference voting so we can afford to go third party and still underwrite the safe option.

It’s no less frustrating though; the Australian Greens, most of the independents and teals put forward the policies we really need to take us forward.

The Greens have wanted electrification of our transport systems for decades. But they’re ’wishy washy’ and ‘obstructionist’.

Which generation is this?

This has been going on for some time; lack of participation in primaries to result in poorer candidates. I recall around 2010 Americans being warned about poor participation, especially in primaries and midterms and the reaction was to be told that it was their right not to vote and to mind their own business. I’d say those who didn’t participate around then are probably more responsible than anyone else for the current Democrats.

At least to millennials and later Gen X this has been a thing, so it’s covered a couple of generations. I’d probably say even earlier, maybe. At least since Gingrich and Ryan held their positions and started obstructing.

The party that warned us about all these things and have policies to deal with them are also highly supportive of minority rights.

Those are generally used as basis of discrimination toward them.

I love the president like a taco

‘Australia is a lucky country, run on other people’s ideas by second rate men who share its luck…’

They (we) were fucking told too. Repeatedly, by parties and representatives who saw this coming a mile off and who we can’t support because something something gay people and minorities.

Years, and the money, we’ve had, but no, fucking fossil fuel and identity politics.

About to say, geez which one of these mid tier clubs eliminated us fuck

But they get the shits when no one wants to join their war in the ME

Of course they do.

So fucking tired of their shit.

Gen X here as well. I’ve never willingly used it. Admittedly I haven’t had a reason but outside the summaries you get on searches et al I’ve never touched it.