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Then it’s great I didn’t say anything about it needing to be outlawed. I simply pointed out the negatives of what will happen if game pass like services become THE way to play games. I’m not really worried about it at the moment because it’s Microslop, they’re incapable of not fucking it up before it’s too late.

But I would be very worried if other big publishers picked up the same model because that implies there’s a big enough market to make the switch and that would put us on the wrong path. I guarantee the likes of EA and T2 are definitely keeping an eye on how game pass is performing and if it was doing exceptionally well we’d be seeing more of them. Kind of like in the early 2010s you saw the likes of EA and Ubisoft create their own storefronts because they saw what a cash cow Steam was. That’s why I don’t use game pass and I don’t recommend game pass and I let people know of the anti-consumer outcomes of using game pass. Because what we do today can impact what we’ll be doing in the future.

There’s an old saying in Tennessee—I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, ‘Fool me once, shame on…shame on you.’ Fool me—you can’t get fooled again.

I’m sorry but being “a comrade” is not an excuse to be weird and annoying so I reject your dismissal of my wall of text. I’m already doubting your reading comprehension, don’t prove it further by not addressing the very simple questions I’m asking.

As for the rest of your comment, if you read what I’ve written you’d know I’ve already addressed half of what you’ve written and I’m aware and don’t disagree with the other half that you’ve written. Maybe you think it makes you seem smart but to me it just reeks of not listening to anything the other person says.

I 100% recommend Shapez 2. I bought it during early access but even then it felt complete enough that I got my fill of it. Imagine my surprise right now when I discover it had a 1.0 launch. It’s an exceptional factory game because it strips the genre down into the most fundamental aspects of factory building and then implements those key aspects with perfection. It’s the purest form of factory builders. No exploration, no collecting resources to build bigger factories, no time limits, no combat, very little space restrictions (99% of the time your own builds are what get in the way). You just build factories that build shapes and then you build ways to get those shapes into the vortex and that’s the entire game. Conceptually simple, elegantly designed, very customizable and can easily get very complex.

That was more of a remaster than a remake. A remake would be making the game from scratch and could be expanded and/or changed. For example expanding the legion side of the map and making Ulysses into a companion instead of a villain. There’s so much cut content for New Vegas that you could remake the game and have it be distinct from the original.

But we haven’t even started yet. Why aren’t you expanding your maximalist position to oppose capitalism? After all you’re the one who said you’re obligated to draw attention to all social injustice and corruption every time. Is capitalism not unjust? Is it not corrupt? You’d think someone who is so absolute in their ethics, to the point of accusing their otherwise allies of being an accomplice or complicit for not being 100% in opposition to the injustice, they’d have no problem taking a similar stand against capitalism. Surely someone like that, who believes they’re obligated to draw attention to the injustice every single time, would let their coworkers know with every single paycheck that some of their wage is being stolen. So why did you ignore my comment the first time around?

My guess is that you understand how weird it would be if you constantly told your coworkers they’re getting ripped off by the system. Not just weird, but I’m pretty sure your coworkers would find it pretty annoying even if they agreed on principle. But for whatever reason you think such behavior is not only acceptable online but anyone not doing that is essentially the enemy. Somehow that’s not weird? That’s not annoying everyone else? I personally don’t think so. Just like it would be weird and annoying IRL it’s weird and annoying online. And for clarification, calling Denuvo bad isn’t weird, constantly going around and calling it bad is weird. There’s a time and a place for that discussion but that time and place isn’t under every thread of a game that has Denuvo.

And before you duck again from this conversation I’ll remind you that you’re the on who started this. I preemptively said I don’t care about your defense of this little circejerk you’re doing and you still felt you’re important enough to let me know how I’m an accomplice to a supposed corporate theft. So for your own sake don’t be a bitch and stand your ground. Otherwise whatever credibility you have left goes straight out the window because you’re all bark and no bite. Come on, explain why you’d take such an absolutist stand against Denuvo but not do the same thing when it comes to opposing capitalism. Why aren’t you constantly annoying your coworkers about how their wage is being stolen?

By the time this will have an impact on NHS either neoliberalism has completely destroyed NHS along with the rest of the country or neoliberalism is replaced with an ideology that cares about using tax money on people instead of businesses. So I wouldn’t be all that concerned by the strain on NHS.

It also undermines the Stop Killing Games movement because you’re not sold a product. You’re sold a service which means any game that exists solely for game pass (which eventually will happen if game pass becomes the predominant way to access games) doesn’t need an EOL plan for game preservation.

It will also create the streaming service problem, where instead of having the games you want to play in one place you will have 3/4 gamepass-like services that each have their own exclusive library so instead of X amount a month you’ll be paying 3x amount to access different services.

It also further normalizes not owning any games so you’ll end up being dependent on the services like gamepass. Which also makes it easier to control the price of the service down the line because what are you going to do, go play your non-existent library of games?

Overall I think Gamepass becoming successful would be a net negative for gaming and as such I’m completely against gamepass and all similar subscription services that might pop up.

I’m sure your coworkers really appreciate you telling them on every single payday that the capital owners are stealing their money. You wouldn’t want to be an accomplice to capitalism now would you.

I felt like replacing one of the two sticks with a trackpad just ended up being the worst of both worlds. You don’t get the accuracy of using a mouse and you don’t get any of the design benefits of having twin sticks. The vast majority of controller supported games are designed with twin sticks in mind. Crimson Desert is a great example from recent memory because I can’t imagine doing circular motions on the right trackpad, which is what you need to do for one skill and the fishing minigame. My thumbs are too lazy for that. But with a stick that’s easy enough to do. Overall fighting games are harder, flying games are harder, twin-stick shooters are almost impossible. Any game that requires some stick-like movements from the right stick instantly get harder to play.

I’m not hating on the Steam Controller, there were quite a lot of innovations I would’ve loved with twin stick controller. The return of the twin sticks is the main reason I’m excited for the controller. I’m also happy with the Dpad coming back because I always felt that was also somewhat clunky on the first controller. Overall I think this one might end up being GOATed.

Do people really put their date of birth in those things? I just scroll the year until I’m clearly past 18 years and that’s when I’m born, January first 19-whogivesafuck. Quite possibly the best date to be born on.

Piefed.social has 29 comments under this thread, 21 of those comments are about Denuvo with over half of them being a variation of the “Denuvo bad”. I get it, I don’t like Denuvo either, but do we really need a “This game has Denuvo so I’m not going to buy it” comment whenever a game with Denuvo is in the news. At this point it’s become another circlejerk. I thought we’re here because we love gaming but it feels like some people are just looking for an excuse to complain.

I can already see this not being well received (considering how popular hating on Denuvo is) so I’m going to save everyone some trouble. I don’t care about your need to defend your circlejerk in front of me. I know where I stand on Denuvo and to me that topic is a dead horse, I’m not going to beat it so I’m not going to respond. I might respond if the comment is about how it impacts the community here, but my stance on that is very simple. We’re intelligent people here, we know how to check whether a game has Denuvo or not, lettings others to the game has Denuvo is not some PSA and calling people the problem for buying a game with Denuvo hurts the community more than it helps.

Chess isn’t a game you haven’t heard of. Chess exploding in the online sphere is a relatively recent development but technically chess predates esports over a millenia.

We can agree that they didn’t know if we also agree they’re so stupid they literally couldn’t comprehend who or what they were voting for. This is beyond “I don’t know his actual policies but he looks like a competent leader and he talks about the right things” because you’d need to have total amnesia for the entire duration of his first presidency to believe he’s a competent leader and knows what he’s talking about.

This is a person who genuinely believed nuking a hurricane was a possible solution to stopping a hurricane. I wouldn’t trust that kind of a person with an ounce of power but MAGA thought that’s good enough to be the president. Half the shit that is happening isn’t even because he’s a fascist piece of shit, it’s because he’s also an incompetent piece of shit.

Except the extraction shooter genre is one of the hardest to penetrate because there are too many interconnected systems that all have to work together and even the most successful extraction shooters struggle with getting all of the systems to together in perfect harmony.

The answer is kinda yes and no but more towards no because it was conceived as a successor to Black Desert and was originally set as a prequel to Black Desert but during development it became its own universe and the final product isn’t even in the same genre as Black Desert. But like Dark Souls isn’t in the same universe as Demons souls either and is still a spiritual successor if you want to consider Crimson Desert as a sort of a single-player successor to Black Desert online I guess that’s probably somewhat true. I can’t really say because I’ve never played Black Desert Online. For me personally MMO vs single-player is a big enough difference to not consider it a successor.

I didn’t say marketing isn’t powerful. Marketing is a pretty easy way to sell units, it’s why AAA games have insane marketing budgets. But marketing doesn’t guarantee 5 million units (which is what the other person claimed) and if a game reaches 5 million units sold without going through the average AAA marketing strategy that is a pretty significant thing because it is a sign that there is something to the game.

I think we’re in agreement here.

And my point is that if you asked your normie gamer, which really didn’t exist in the same form, in 2005 who Bungie is — you’d mostly get question marks.

I doubt it. By 2005 people already knew Bungie. Halo was a critical and commercial success and Halo 2 had released a year prior and not only was highly anticipated but ended up as a system seller for Xbox. If you were gaming in 2005 you’d know about Bungie. Had it been about Bungie in 2001 then a normie would give you question marks because at that point Bungie was pretty much unknown. Marathon games were on Mac, they made a RTS game and Oni, which wasn’t all that big of a hit. Halo is what put Bungie on the map and Halo 2 made them very much a household name.

And that’s my point with Crimson Desert as well. Pearl Abyss made BDO before, but they’re still very much an unknown developer. They don’t get the kind of benefit of doubt Bungie or Bioware or Blizzard tend to get. Crimson Desert is the hit that puts weight behind the Pearl Abyss name. The next Pearl Abyss is going to get more eyes because of Crimson Desert.

This would be relevant except that Marathon only sold as well as it did because of the heavy marketing push.

Again, that’s largely my point. You can’t market a game and just sell 5 million units. Marathon sold 1.2 million units because a) it’s a Bungie game so people would be paying attention to it and b) it had heavy marketing behind it. It would’ve sold even less without those two things, but that’s besides the point. The idea that you can just sell 5 million units through marketing is simply not true and Marathon proves it.

You can argue everything before launch wasn’t organic if you want to, I don’t care enough to argue over your cynicism, but post-launch it has been organic. If the game was a steaming pile of shit none of the before release “astroturfing” would matter a month after release, the game would have a player count nosedive like Highguard and it would be what people consider “a dead game”. But it’s not having that nose-dive, it has a fairly small decay considering last sunday peak playercount was almost the same as the first peak after launch. Furthermore the reviews have gone from mixed at launch to very positive. Those things don’t happen when the hype is manufactured.

People aren’t making Youtube videos on Crimson Desert combos or puzzle solving videos or why you should engage with the camp management system or etc because Pearl Abyss is paying them, the videos get made because people want to make those videos and talk about the game. You don’t get a RDR2 artist glazing the water simulation (which BTW is a video I very much recommend watching because it’s a nerd nerding out about nerdy things and IMO those are always the best videos) unless there’s something to glaze, Pearl Abyss isn’t going to pay their competition to glaze them.

My point is that if you took a normie gamer and asked them who Pearl Abyss is they wouldn’t know just like they wouldn’t know who Frontier Developments is. They might know if you mention BDO or ED but that’s not the same as asking who the studio is. If you ask who Bungie is they will know.

The comparison to Marathon was explicitly to debunk the idea that you can sell 5 million units simply by doing marketing. That was the extent of the comparison. But to bring it back to my point here, the reason we’re even talking about Marathon is because of Bungie. If Pearl Abyss had made Marathon we wouldn’t be talking about it because nobody would be giving a shit about a failed extraction shooter. People gave Marathon a chance because it’s made by Bungie. Some people bought Marathon only because they believed Bungie is going to pull out another banger.