Gandalf the Gorsed

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Cake day: June 27th, 2024

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  • No problem! That sounds about right. If you’re interested, I’d recommend checking out Dr Dan Mcelllan on YT. He’s a scholar of the bible who makes videos about where certain dogmas and doctrines come from and counters evangelical apologetics on topics like abortion, homosexuality, the Trinity etc.

    Enjoy your drinks!


  • American evangelicals and Catholics have very different relationships with the bible. Evangelicals (and other protestant traditions) treat the bible as the ultimate authority and claim that all their beliefs are supported by the bible. If you can convince an evangelical that the bible isn’t all they think it is, everything else can collapse pretty easily.

    For Catholics, the Church is the ultimate authority, with the bible being just one of the strands of tradition it has developed over time. Telling a Catholic their doctrine of the Immaculate Conception isn’t in the bible won’t be a problem to them, because they’re perfectly comfortable accepting later traditions as just that. Evangelicals on the other hand will accept some of the same traditions like the concept of the Trinity, but they will fight tooth and nail to torture the text in the bible to justify their belief in it.


  • Obviously it’s only any good if “Bible literacy” is taught by people who have actually studied the bible and aren’t bound by dogmas to a specific religious interpretation, which I don’t think is feasible. But if Bible literacy was really what they were teaching, chances are it would have a net positive impact on America.


  • Because it means undermining the religious basis of conservative ideas for many Americans. Some who realise that their ideas on the LGBTQ community or abortion etc aren’t actually defensible purely based on the bible will be forced to confront their faith and worldview. Or if their education is thorough and soon enough, maybe they’ll never get to that point.