• qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I’m not having that debate. Nobody cares except bigots trying to hurt trans people. If you’re not, don’t get sucked into that debate. They’re arguing in bad faith

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      1 month ago

      You’re arguing in bad faith?

      You are creating a strawman by claiming anyone who cares about gender in sports is a bigot who is trying to hurt trans people.

      • qevlarr@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        No, I said people are being duped into debating by bigots. This is about politics, not sports.

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          1 month ago

          That’s a strawman.

          You are saying that people do not reach that conclusion on their own.

          • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
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            1 month ago

            Has Domi pointed out elsewhere in this thread. There is no evidence that transgender women have a physical advantage over cisgender women, provided they’ve been on HRT for 2+ years. here’s the meta-analysis they linked

            So yeah, based off of:

            It shouldn’t, but it does. As a matter of what is statistically relevant about the dichotomy between males and females.

            You’re either a bigot trying to use sports to hurt trans people, or you’ve been duped by bigots. So, unless you’re made of straw Qevlarr isn’t using a straw man argument.

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              1 month ago

              Cool, I’ll check it out, but the claim is still a strawman.

              I’m a vegan. When i see people eating beef, I don’t claim “either you like hurting cows, or you’ve been duped by people who hate animals”.

              The claim itself is stupid and needlessly inflammatory.

              • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                1 month ago

                I’m a vegan. When i see people eating beef, I don’t claim “either you like hurting cows, or you’ve been duped by people who hate animals”.

                I’m not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but I wouldn’t argue with you if you made that claim, because the only reason we as a society eat as much meat as we do, is because it’s normalised at every level for economic reasons.

                If I can manage that, you can manage to not argue with trans people trying to deal with the active and ongoing exclusion they face.