cross-posted from: https://pawb.social/post/42620143

Their lives are blissful… free from the burden of self doubt.

Revolutionary Spain represents an example of extremely effective armed resistance to the rise of fascist forces backed by Hitler and Mussolini, surviving for years. By contrast, many established democracies collapsed relatively quickly when invaded.

For more information, you can check out an anarchist FAQ’s answer to the question, “Does revolutionary Spain show that libertarian socialism can work in practice?”. For a more current example of an anarchist society working in practice, you could also check out the Zapatista movement, an anarchist society which today consists of at least 300,000 people.

If you’re unfamiliar with anarchism, you probably have some misconceptions about it, so I encourage you to watch the Q&Anarchy video series by Thought Slime or have a look through an Anarchist FAQ, because it’s almost definitely nothing like what you think.

  • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialOPEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Anarchism is completely compatible with individuals acting according to their self interest - indeed, egoist anarchism is entirely centered around that concept, but other anarchist traditions are fully compatible with self-interest. An incredible amount of optimism in human co-operation and selflessness is not necessary.

    they are focused on the self-determination of indigenous Mayan communities

    You’ve unintentionally touched on what makes anarchism so stable - by its very nature because it is built by the people who live and work in an area, it can be perfectly attuned to meet their needs! An anarchist society formed in a city would be completely different from one formed in the rural countryside. It is not an imposed blueprint for society that follows some dogma, it’s an approach where everyone involved in the society has a say in how it’s run, and no one has power over others. That’s all!

          • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialOPEnglish
            2·
            11 days ago

            “You are in Zapatista territory in rebellion. Here the people command and the government obeys.”

            Speak for yourself, because that sounds fucking awesome, to me.

            • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
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              11 days ago

              There are signs and magazines in North Korea declaring it the happiest and most prosperous nation on earth, would you not rather live in the happiest place?

              • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialOPEnglish
                1·
                10 days ago

                North Korea is an oppressive, totalitarian state, with limited freedoms, so no, I would prefer not to live there, even if everyone there truly was happy, because I believe in freedom.

                That is why I oppose liberal ideology, because it enables the wage slavery of the working class for the benefit of the ruling class.

                Do you have any actual objections to life under the Zapatistas, or are you just going to continue vagueposting about how it must be bad because you decided it must be?

            • OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world
              02·
              11 days ago

              Oh yeah lol you’re the person posting about ideologies in a shitpost thread.

              Also my issue was with how you were wording things, just like the other person you were agruing with, but we were in agreement.

              Nah its ok, you can leave me out if it. Cheers.

              • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialOPEnglish
                2·
                11 days ago

                my issue was with how you were wording things

                Yes, the word “good” is so inscrutable and mysterious, whatever could it mean.

                The other guy making that argument literally self-identified as a narcissist, by the way.

                but we were in agreement.

          • Anisette [any/all]@quokk.auEnglish
            2·
            11 days ago

            that is a really weird bar to have to clear. “well, your anarchy doesn’t conform to our borders, so it doesn’t count” ???