• SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
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    9 days ago

    That’s not what I said and you had to put in a lot of effort to bend it to your will. Obama was a cunt and I didn’t agree with him when he was president but I would even take George W. Bush Jr. over that rotting fuck of a president the US got now.

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      8 days ago

      But it is pretty clearly the line of thinking you’re trying to support if you have anything to say in the defense of the all time deportation champ.

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      9 days ago

      The problem is systemic, it isn’t that we have one bad president. they were all bad.

      and Americans keep excusing it because “lesser evil”.

      it should not be controversial to say Obama belongs in jail next to Trump. although Trump deserves a much longer sentence.

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        9 days ago

        If all I have are two shoes, one will make my feet hurt and the other will make them bleed, the choice is clear.

        Of course I should get better shoes, but maybe that’s not possible in the moment. Compromise is a laughable word in this situation and I agree that the US should be held accountable, but at the moment that’s not possible. It doesn’t matter if you think this is abhorrent or not. Change the system or accept that the lesser evil will be the better choice.

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          The problem is that in your metaphor, no one even considers repairing or changing the shoes.

          if anyone complains about the shoes that make you hurt they yell at you for promoting the shoes that make you bleed.

          then next year your shoes have degraded and now you have to choose between shoes that make you bleed and shoes that breal your toes. same thing, no point in fixing them, because bleeding is better than broken toes…

          And per your metaphor,

          it’s better to go barefoot.

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              9 days ago

              Besides telling people to shut up about genuine issues that need addressed, what the fuck are you doing?

              I can give a long list of things I actually do, but I assume you’ll probably say I’m lying.

              But what are you doing?

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                8 days ago

                Trying not to get angry about you, that’s really hard 💕

                You are pissing people off that acknowledge there is a lesser evil to be chosen. Tell me how that doesn’t alienate others. Sure, Obama should be held accountable and Kamala was probably not the best candidate one could ever have but a lot of people that are now dead would live and a lot of people that now live in fear would have peace if Trump would have lost to the lesser evil so fuck right off with your argument. One step after another. That is how you proceed. No matter how much you want it, you can’t start implementing utopia from nothing.

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                  You are pissing people off that acknowledge there is a lesser evil to be chosen.

                  Not half as much as y’all are pissing me off with your lesser evil bullshit. All it takes for one of the not-evil candidates who “can’t win” to actually win is for enough people to start voting for what they want instead of accepting the will of their Wall St masters.

                  Frankly, if you voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris, you’re one of the only people in the US who deserves to live under the Trump administration, because you helped create the conditions where it could even exist to begin with.

                  Happy slaves deserve their chains, and that goes triple for the ones who’ll chastise anyone looking to get the chains off because the other slavemasters’ chains are heavier.

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                  8 days ago

                  So, all you do, is literally nothing?

                  Maybe you are the one who needs to shut up.

                  if you need me to listen to more of your bullshit, I’ll be back in my kitchen cooking 50 meals for a mutual aid.

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                    8 days ago

                    I didn’t say I did nothing, but I’m not that far off mentally that I think we wouldn’t need to compromise in our lives.