• youcantreadthis@quokk.au
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        8 days ago

        Those aren’t friends they’re people who will betray you and believe with every fiber if their being that they’re helping

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          It’s beneficial to hang out with normal people too. Even if you have to use social skills to keep hanging out. You lose that link and lose a tether to reality.

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            As a kid; parents, the church and community we lived in that turned a blind eye to it. As an adult; myself, both due to poor exposure to healthy relationships as a child and the naivety of believing that institutions like employers, health care, or state agencies existed for the purposes of social support. Ironically, now I spend most of my time with dogs, who’ve never hurt me 🤷‍♂️

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      Some people think that social cohesion is more important than social advancement. They’re obviously both important, as you can’t start a revolution if everyone hates you, but right now we’re so focused on getting along with everyone that we forget that we need to use that cohesion to force our country to do what we want, not just hold hands as our country forces us off a cliff.

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        For some reason I doubt this was the thing racing through his head when he decided he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her.

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          8 days ago

          Obviously relationships are multifaceted, but when you live in a time that will later be remembered for its instability and war, it’s important that you’re on at least a similar page as your partner concerning such subjects.

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        8 days ago

        Country? That’s a dumb limiting thing. Why stop there? Why bind yourself with borders that will never be a tool of virtue?

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          Sure, that’s the goal, but honestly, even the country is far too big to start. Getting the ball rolling at a city or maybe even a small town level would probably be best, then build in people from surrounding towns to get it up to county size, then state, the country, then continent, then world. Trying to build the final stage as step 1 is just making a hard task harder. People like to join an existing movement rather than feel like they’re starting from scratch, and getting a few people to work together to start is a lot easier than millions.

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            8 days ago

            But the idea of working on their organizing units is insane unless you’re trying to be them its not like I don’t talk yo people around the world every day

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              That’s why you start small. A country of people won’t join a small-town movement, but they’ll be a lot more likely to join an existing country-sized movement. It’s a snowball effect. Not sure if you’ve ever lived somewhere cold enough to actually roll up a snowball, but it only grabs a small amount of snow compared to the size of the ball when you roll it.

              A small ball won’t pick up a lot of snow, but it will pick up enough to grow into a larger ball that picks up comparatively more snow to grow larger and pick up comparatively more snow, and so on. It doesn’t take long until you’re picking up clumps of snow several times larger than the initial ball like they’re nothing.

              If you tried to just pack all that snow into the ball from the start you’d be there all day, but starting small and diligently rolling will easily result in a huge ball so long as you stick with it. Obviously people aren’t so easy to gather, but the principles are the same.

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                8 days ago

                You’re still thinking in their terms units of organization why tfshpuld I rsspe t their borders San Diego Tijuana are same city to me like Victoria Seattle it’s not smart to do that ‘country’ is stupid

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                  I mean, who gives a shit whether I say “A country’s worth of people” or “100 million people?” If you’re going to be that pedantic about it, we’ll never be able to come together to rise up in the first place. I speak in terms of geographic locations because that’s how revolutions start. One person in real life teams up with another person in real life, who together team up with other geographically nearby people on a local scale before moving up to larger and larger scales.

                  No matter how much a person in Seattle wants to help a movement that’s currently confined to Tijuana, they won’t be able to do anything tangible unless they physically go there and help. They could alternatively start up their own local movement in Seattle that eventually merges with the Tijuana one, or wait until the Tijuana one grows to reach Seattle, but neither of those helps the Tijuana one right now. Technically they could go online and spread awareness of the Tijuana movement, but the whole “thoughts and prayers” thing is less of a tangible helpful act and more of a way to pacify us by making us think we did something tangible, and rest on our laurels.

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                    A country’s worth Montenegro Switzerland India please specify you seem really attached to the form of countries geographic locations sure but alto California and Appalachia aren’t the same not even close you can throw things from San Diego to Tijuana like with your hand england and the Balkans are closer culturally than California and appalachia and geographically not that we can’t work together its geographically nearby sometimes but especially these days networks of comrades aren’t always same continent I’ve written for zines first printed in Sydney and Dublin like opposite side of world and completely failed to put shit together with people on my block used tactics and strategies from hong Kong learned about what not to do when being cavalry charged from a friend who sent me a pic of her breasts with the great pyramid in the background later that day