“In 2023, 28% of adults scored at or below Level 1…Adults scoring below Level 1 can comprehend simple sentences and short paragraphs with minimal structure but will struggle with multi-step instructions or complex sentences, while those at Level 1 can locate explicitly cued information in short texts, lists, or simple digital pages with minimal distractions but will struggle with multi-page texts and complex prose…of the adults with low English literacy skills, 66% were born in the U.S.”

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    9 days ago

    I don’t get the moral of the story. He wanted absolute obedience or checked to see if people followed exact instructions? Do HR think that the people he rejected were rejected because adults with higher technical skills and EFL would assemble it correctly and thus be discriminated against?

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      Basically he wanted to make sure people read and followed the instructions.

      Hr claimed it was potentially discriminating against people who didnt have English as as their native language. Their argument really made no sense since we were legally required to follow the instructions which were written in English. And it was medical devices so yes actually legally required.

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        curious if he said they would be scored on how well they followed instructions because if a paltry task was presented I could see many folks immediately just doing it. Its like ok here on the instructions to toast bread and we want it medium toasted. I immedidately toast the bread to the medium level without reading isntructions because. Its toasting bread. Instructions at some point say to crumble the bread into the slots or something else kinda dumb.

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          There was no scoring, it was binary, you followed instructions or you didn’t. This was medical device so if you didn’t follow instructions you could theoretically kill or atleast severely harm a person. This was stressed multiple times before hand in the discussion part of the interview. They had to read the instructions to some point to know what goes where. Like one of the steps would be like “solder the 1.0k resistor in location R7. ONLY SOLDER ONE LEG OF THE RESISTOR.” This tested their ability to solder, their ability to identify a 1.0k resistor, and their reading of the instructions.

          If it was a bakery and you were told to make a lemon pound cake, you likely could just make it without the instructions. A similar idea would be like a sticker in a warehouse with a series of steps to receive a delivery. A box could come in with 10,000 screws but do you mark it as 1 box of screws, 10,000 screws, or maybe 100 packs of screws if you process them in groups of 100? No way for you to know how the company does that but if you do it wrong your inventory will be totally wrong.

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            9 days ago

            Yeah if it was stressed about going by the book or carefully reading and doing what the instructions then I think its fair. If it was do this task and some instructions were present but the task was again paltry or obvious then its a bit unfair.

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              It was stressed and you needed to read the instructions to know what goes where. He took a real board we used and a selection of components. There could be 50 resistors on the real board but you are only given 5 as this is only a test. Does this resistor go on r13, r23, r33, r41 or r07? If you can figure that out with instructions you are being wasted in this position…