12 dash line, Belt and road is just neo-colonialism debt traps and soft power grabs, consistent threats to the sovereignty of Bhutan, Taiwan, the Phillipines and more. Financial and material aid to both sides of the conflict in Myanmar, weapon sales to Russia for use in Ukraine, etc.
You’re either incredibly dishonest or incredibly fucking stupid
You can look up anything in that comment. Very easily. The follow up comment is “you made that all up” which seems would require some level of proof, seeing as the other commenter gave examples which are verifiable.
Wow four whole “sources”! Too bad they completely fail to prove any of the inane claims presented here, as usual
First link: “China takes a multipronged approach to secure its investments in Myanmar”, from Janes , “The source for commercially available military intelligence”. Contains exactly zero evidence to support the claim that China is supporting both sides of the conflict in Myanmar, and is published by an MIC data broker owned by a fucking private equity firm.
Second link: “The Nine-Dash Line in the South China Sea: History, Status, and Implications”, full version paywalled, summary is uselessly vague but that’s ok because the original comment we’re discussing didn’t even present any claims, just says “12 dash line” which is also not even the name lol
Third link: “Persecution of Uyghurs in Xinjiang:Torture, Crimes Against Humanity, and Genocide” from the Human Rights Research Center lol. And what are their sources? Oh, just the CIA! Totally credible lol, unlike the unified majority of muslim nations on earth
apparently
Fourth link: “‘Tidal wave’: How 75 nations face Chinese debt crisis in 2025”, you clearly didn’t bother reading past the headline or you’d have known that this article directly contradicts the claims you’re defending
From the article: "Rhodium consulting group looked at 38 Chinese debt renegotiations with 24 developing countries in 2019 and concluded that Beijing’s leverage was limited, with many of the renegotiations resolved in favour of the borrower.
According to Rhodium, developing countries had restructured roughly $50bn of Chinese loans in the decade before its 2019 study was published, with loan extensions, cheaper financing and debt forgiveness the most frequent outcomes.
Elsewhere, a 2020 study by the China Africa Research Initiative at Johns Hopkins University found that, between 2000 and 2019, China cancelled $3.4bn of debt in Africa and a further $15bn was refinanced. No assets were seized.
In 2022, the Debt Justice Group estimated that African governments owed three times more to private financial groups than to China, charging double the interest in the process.
“Developing country debt to China is less than what is owed to both private bondholders and multilateral development banks (MDBs),” says Kevin Gallagher, director of the Boston University Global Development Policy Center.
“So, Lowy’s focus on China lacks context. The truth is, even if you remove China from the creditor picture, lots of poor countries would still be in debt distress,” Gallagher told Al Jazeera.
A crucial aspect about Chinese lending,” said Gallagher, “is that it tends to be long-term and growth enhancing. That’s precisely why a lot of it is focused on infrastructure investment. Western lenders tend to get in and out faster and charge higher rates.”
You’re either an incurable moron or a fed, embarassing either way
Cherry picking lines isn’t proving it’s made up dipshit. You need to provide sources of your own, not just choose quotes and then go “hur dur my point” without even backing it up. Tankies stay retarded. Let everyone else know how Putin and Xis boots taste.
The dude said “yeah well the USA does it too”, as though doing the same thing as an imperialist nation was some kind of gotcha.
That’s the conversation.
So what is the point y’all are making with your memelording?
12 dash line, Belt and road is just neo-colonialism debt traps and soft power grabs, consistent threats to the sovereignty of Bhutan, Taiwan, the Phillipines and more. Financial and material aid to both sides of the conflict in Myanmar, weapon sales to Russia for use in Ukraine, etc.
You’re either incredibly dishonest or incredibly fucking stupid
They’re tankies… They’re both.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up kiddo
Oh a tankie! It can write! Now draw shapes tankie. Fuckwad.
Try harder halfwit
What did they make up? You made a claim without backing it up.
Wrong, they’ve made a claim without backing it up. Did you not notice that? Maybe take a second to think about why
You can look up anything in that comment. Very easily. The follow up comment is “you made that all up” which seems would require some level of proof, seeing as the other commenter gave examples which are verifiable.
Myanmar
9 dash line
Crimes against Uyghurs
Belt and road debt trap
So how about you offer something more than “MaDe iT uP” which displays the same debate skills as a 4 year old?
Wow four whole “sources”! Too bad they completely fail to prove any of the inane claims presented here, as usual
First link: “China takes a multipronged approach to secure its investments in Myanmar”, from Janes , “The source for commercially available military intelligence”. Contains exactly zero evidence to support the claim that China is supporting both sides of the conflict in Myanmar, and is published by an MIC data broker owned by a fucking private equity firm.
Second link: “The Nine-Dash Line in the South China Sea: History, Status, and Implications”, full version paywalled, summary is uselessly vague but that’s ok because the original comment we’re discussing didn’t even present any claims, just says “12 dash line” which is also not even the name lol
Third link: “Persecution of Uyghurs in Xinjiang:Torture, Crimes Against Humanity, and Genocide” from the Human Rights Research Center lol. And what are their sources? Oh, just the CIA! Totally credible lol, unlike the unified majority of muslim nations on earth apparently
Fourth link: “‘Tidal wave’: How 75 nations face Chinese debt crisis in 2025”, you clearly didn’t bother reading past the headline or you’d have known that this article directly contradicts the claims you’re defending
From the article: "Rhodium consulting group looked at 38 Chinese debt renegotiations with 24 developing countries in 2019 and concluded that Beijing’s leverage was limited, with many of the renegotiations resolved in favour of the borrower.
According to Rhodium, developing countries had restructured roughly $50bn of Chinese loans in the decade before its 2019 study was published, with loan extensions, cheaper financing and debt forgiveness the most frequent outcomes.
Elsewhere, a 2020 study by the China Africa Research Initiative at Johns Hopkins University found that, between 2000 and 2019, China cancelled $3.4bn of debt in Africa and a further $15bn was refinanced. No assets were seized.
In 2022, the Debt Justice Group estimated that African governments owed three times more to private financial groups than to China, charging double the interest in the process.
“Developing country debt to China is less than what is owed to both private bondholders and multilateral development banks (MDBs),” says Kevin Gallagher, director of the Boston University Global Development Policy Center.
“So, Lowy’s focus on China lacks context. The truth is, even if you remove China from the creditor picture, lots of poor countries would still be in debt distress,” Gallagher told Al Jazeera.
A crucial aspect about Chinese lending,” said Gallagher, “is that it tends to be long-term and growth enhancing. That’s precisely why a lot of it is focused on infrastructure investment. Western lenders tend to get in and out faster and charge higher rates.”
You’re either an incurable moron or a fed, embarassing either way
Cherry picking lines isn’t proving it’s made up dipshit. You need to provide sources of your own, not just choose quotes and then go “hur dur my point” without even backing it up. Tankies stay retarded. Let everyone else know how Putin and Xis boots taste.
If selling weapons is bad, I’ve got some news for you about the US you might want to sit down for . . .
It’s like you forgot to read the question they’re answering.
Question: how is China imperialist like USA
Answer: here is how China is imperialist like USA
You: yeah, well USA does it too!
Imperialism is selling weapons? That’s Lenin, right?
Dude calm down
Bro didn’t read the thread, I can tell
Weak, do better
Do better at what? This isn’t a competition.
The dude said “yeah well the USA does it too”, as though doing the same thing as an imperialist nation was some kind of gotcha.
That’s the conversation.
So what is the point y’all are making with your memelording?