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I know there are some ways to imeoove it by allowing the app to always run in the background, but still it’s very annoying and it happens constantly to me and many others. What is the root problem? Why don’t other messaging apps have this problem?

  • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today
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    6 days ago

    It happens to my wife on GrapheneOS via the normal Signal app. Still trying to figure out the issue. I’ve had zero issues myself using Molly

  • ThyTTY@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I believe that some manufacturers impose a “whitelist” sort of thing for apps running in a background. I know a case of a Motorola and an ASUS phone that basically alllowed only the popular apps like Whatsapp and Facebook to run in background and Signal was terminated almost instantly when put into back. Samsung for example has a tool to detect if the app is “noisy” and if it shows too many notifications then the system will stop showing them for a while. They probably have an allowlist themselves because I haven’t heard about this issue on Messenger or Instagram. How it works internally is impossible to say since we cannot see the code.

    I was working as an Android developer couple of years ago and we had to fix many issues with push notifications and these were the team’s findings. It may be no longer the case and I believe it’s time Signal started showing up on these allowlists but who knows

  • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    I choose to believe it happened once upon a time, was fixed, and now everyone makes it up as an excuse to ignore messages.

    (It literally never happened to me, I received every notification that I should)

    • Jokulhlaups@lemmy.worldOP
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      6 days ago

      True, but i can see only one checkmark so the message is not delivered yet, while other apps can.

  • hamsda@feddit.org
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    6 days ago

    Since I allowed signal to always-run-in-background I have seemingly never missed a signal notification.

    Do they just not show up for you?

    • Jokulhlaups@lemmy.worldOP
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      6 days ago

      I think it might have solved it for me as well, but its not guaranteed for every phone in my experience. But it’s still annoying, that this is something that I then need to explain to others to do the same. The added friction just turns avg person away quickly.

  • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website
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    6 days ago

    I’ve been using Signal for about 5 years, WhatsApp for longer, LINE for shorter. The only one that seems to get background process killed occasionally is the latter. I’m on a Xiaomi phone and their version of Android wants to kill everything, except their own apps. Signal stays up.

    Nobody has ever complained about not getting Signal texts to me.

    Have you actually seen evidence of missing messages? There could be human error involved or you caught ghosters red handed.

    • Jokulhlaups@lemmy.worldOP
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      6 days ago

      I can literally see that massage is not even delivered. If I see the delivery mark, then yes, the notification always appears. Then frim that point is person fault, but not when the message seem to not even reach the other. (Mind the phone is online and other apps deliver)