• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    The Belfour declaration happened because of the Jewish Zionist and first president of Israel Chaim Weizmann to begin with. The British empire is complicit in the colonization but those who did the ethnic cleansing was mostly Jewish Zionists financed by other Jewish Zionists . And the be clear those Zionist jews do not represent jews and Judaism as a while. I really doubt that the colonization project would have been stopped if the Belfour declaration did not happen

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      11 days ago

      Correct and Balfour, the man who penned the document, was a conservative christian. And the declaration was ratified and backed by the almost entirely christian parliament. That jews are predominantly responsible for being the dogs who carry out western atrocities in israel is a given. That’s a basic fact. Why can’t you acknowledge the christian colonialist component of zionism without falling back on making that basic fact the centerpiece of your reply? It’s really weird. I’m not asking you personally yo take responsibility for this. I’m just asking us all to acknowledge that this is no longer really a “jewish” project. It’s racist nation state domination with a jewish skin.

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        11 days ago

        Why can’t you acknowledge the christian colonialist component of zionism

        But I do.

        That jews are predominantly responsible for being the dogs who carry out western atrocities in israel is a given.

        The zionist jews and zionist christians had alluance based on having a common target. There is no master/dog relstion here

        this is no longer really a “jewish” project

        It was always a colonial project backed by other colonial powers and different interests. No wonder those imperialist power quickly recognized an illigitimate state

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          11 days ago

          Sorry, I think I was arguing a bit past you earlier, on closer examination I think we’re mostly on the same page. I’m just used to being surprised by the difference in reactions to self-criticism between US and UK commenters so I was probably a bit too on guard! Your clarifications here make it all make sense.