• FishFace@piefed.social
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    Side view for more comparison:

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    Top right: clearest case IMO. nose clearly bears no resemblance to his actual nose, whereas large hooked noses are the most common physical anti-semitic stereotype.

    Top left: huge lips is another classic Nazi stereotype. Big ears arguably also, but he does have pretty big ears. The drooping eyes are a more subtle stereotype, but given that his actual eyes are narrow, not drooping, that’s pretty suspicious IMO. Contrast top-right, which caricatures his real eyes.

    Bottom left: fucking cursed, but I can’t see anything anti-semitic

    Bottom right: unhinged, but again not anti-semitic that I can see. There have been some depictions of jews as snakes, hence having forked tongues, but they’re not super common that I can see so it’s a bit of a stretch.

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        OK but saying a politician is a snake or devil of some kind isn’t unusual, so unless we can find some anti-semitic trope it’s based on, I don’t see it.

        Ironically, the most common example I know if is Farage as depicted by Martin Rowson!

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      The four cartoon pics straight up look like they were drawn by A. Wyatt Mann.

      Edit: THREE cartoons and a PHOTO MANIPULATION, thank you for correcting fuckin pedant, feels like I’m back on Reddit thanks

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        Given that the bottom left is not even a cartoon but a photomanipulation I don’t think you’ve looked at them carefully enough that anyone should take your word for it.

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          You’re right looking at pictures requires an extensive investigative study it can’t be just done at a glance.

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            No, extensive is not necessary, obviously. But it looks like a glance is not sufficient.

            If you disagree you can say what’s wrong with the others. It’s a lot more productive than just talking vaguely.

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              I was saying they all look racist but you come in hostile so how bout you productively fuck off. Sorry my shitpost comment I made while I was on a walk about how some images are racist and look like a racist guy’s comics didn’t meet your exhaustive observational standards. I sure will sit down and REALLY study a post’s images and my comment before make any more posting lest I offend your delicate sensibilities more.

              Or most likely I’ll glance at your poop brown tag you’ve earned now and extensively think “lul that guy’s a full on dingus from reddit”

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                I was saying they all look racist

                But are still not saying how.

                Or most likely

                Oh no, however will I cope? The approval of people who add nothing to discussions was all that was keeping me going :'(

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                  Do you even know who A. Wyatt Man is? It’s an internet comment not a fucking research paper. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, stay ignorant, I’m not here to hold the hand of some fired up toxic asshole. If someone asked half-respectfully, I could elaborate.

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                    Yeah he made some very widely spread racist pen and ink cartoons, including the extremely widespread “happy merchant” one featuring a Jewish man with hooked nose, curly hair and beard, kippah and fat lips.

                    His cartoons look absolutely nothing like the bottom two pictures. I know you don’t like that I’m persisting with this, but given that you could have said something like “yeah, the resemblance is really only with the top two” at any point, that’s on you.

                    Maybe you expected me to just not contradict you because you’re partially right? Tough titties, you were partially wrong, and getting the facts right on this is important. “Not a fucking research paper”? Take some pride in what you write, instead of giving in to the post truth era. Incorrect accusations of racism are harmful.

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        But surely anyone’s nose will appear more hooked when widely grinning like that because it’ll slightly raise the points where your nose attaches to your face.

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          as a jew it’s actually shocking to read the top level comments on this post. practically every one is either dismissing it or subtly anti-semitic. i think i might actually hate it here on lemmy

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            Further down you can at least see that one person actually learned and concluded that they’ve ostensibly been too sheltered to learn about this until now.

            Ok, young people exist, but so many of them just loudly proclaiming they see nothing wrong is just alarming, no matter if they’re just clueless or Nazis rubbing their hands like their favorite caricature.